Orcon Announce UFB Plans

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#591771 7-Mar-2012 14:33

Doh! Of course it is, not sure how I forgot that!

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#591772 7-Mar-2012 14:36

codyc1515:
Behodar:
sbiddle: No mention of install pricing other than the mention of it varying depending on the property..

I've asked for a price, although I bet that it'll be horrendous for me due to topography, node location, etc. I'll post back once I hear something.

A few months back I think I got a quote for around $4000 for a house nearby.

They won't be lining up to join UFB if $4000 is a typical cost.

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#591776 7-Mar-2012 14:46

surfisup1000:
codyc1515:
Behodar:
sbiddle: No mention of install pricing other than the mention of it varying depending on the property..

I've asked for a price, although I bet that it'll be horrendous for me due to topography, node location, etc. I'll post back once I hear something.

A few months back I think I got a quote for around $4000 for a house nearby.

They won't be lining up to join UFB if $4000 is a typical cost.

I think that price was through either Telecom Wholesale or Chorus and the price for 50GB a month was around $1000.

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#591779 7-Mar-2012 14:48

codyc1515:
surfisup1000:
codyc1515:
Behodar:
sbiddle: No mention of install pricing other than the mention of it varying depending on the property..

I've asked for a price, although I bet that it'll be horrendous for me due to topography, node location, etc. I'll post back once I hear something.

A few months back I think I got a quote for around $4000 for a house nearby.

They won't be lining up to join UFB if $4000 is a typical cost.

I think that price was through either Telecom Wholesale or Chorus and the price for 50GB a month was around $1000.

Ahhh right, so this is not what the subscriber pays to be connected to the network.

I wonder how much the average residential install would cost the actual subscriber.

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#591805 7-Mar-2012 15:13

Good to see the plans.

Really hope Chorus turns off my street's "fibre trial" status or whatever and lets me choose an ISP, rather than being forced to use Xnet.

Rang Orcon about it but no ETA for my address, even though I'm already using fibre... zzz

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#591814 7-Mar-2012 15:34

ChrisNZL: Good to see the plans.

Really hope Chorus turns off my street's "fibre trial" status or whatever and lets me choose an ISP, rather than being forced to use Xnet.

Rang Orcon about it but no ETA for my address, even though I'm already using fibre... zzz

Can you PM me the details of your address so i can have our people talk to chorus?

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#591825 7-Mar-2012 15:49

Thanks Paul, I've PM'd you.

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#591833 7-Mar-2012 16:11

$2 per gigabyte seems kind of steep when other isps offer extra data at $1 per GB.

And +1 for 150GB, 250GB and 500GB plans.

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#591852 7-Mar-2012 16:42

codyc1515:
antoniosk:
codyc1515:
Behodar:
hellonearthisman: Business pricing plans
Business fibre pricing plans start at $169+GST (30Mbps/10Mbps/5Mbps/5Mbps)

Is the 5Mbps/5Mbps their capped speeds or is there only the $2/GB option.

I think that's the CIR.

Wow, so hang on, you pay for 100Mbps, e.g., but you may only actually be able to get 5Mbps at any given time?

Yep.

But if you think it through, it will take some years for the rings to fill up, so the first customer will get stonking service and it will decline from there.

If thats the case then eventually the speed will be worse than ADSL2+. So whats the benefit?

While simplistic mathematics may support you, you're basically 100% wrong.

Sorry for the bluntness, but this involves the most basic principles of broadband network design here...

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#591882 7-Mar-2012 18:09

Residential install is supposed to be free. I remember this from the early announcements.

That's since become free within a certain distance of the road, which has become a bunfight between the fibre companies (LFCs) and the service providers (RSPs) and I'm not sure where it stands today.

Personally I don't think any residential owner should be paying a penny and the ISPs shouldn't either. They're there to sell the service, the LFCs are there to build the network. This clearly falls on the network side of the fence.

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#591884 7-Mar-2012 18:12

Most newish properties have a conduit so the old copper wires can be used to pull a fibre through without too much difficulty (hope the old cable doesn't break though!). THe problem will be people who don't have structured home wiring where the ETP is not where they will put their equipment. For me I have a single cat5e that runs to my patch panel from the ETP so if the ONT can be put there then it will be easy for me.

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#591901 7-Mar-2012 18:57

PaulBrislen: [snip]
Personally I don't think any residential owner should be paying a penny and the ISPs shouldn't either. They're there to sell the service, the LFCs are there to build the network. This clearly falls on the network side of the fence.

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I'm at the wrong end of a 90metre sealed driveway... You're personal opinion is that someone else should pay for that to be dug up and have fibre laid? Man, I'd vote for you if you can present a business case that makes that work!!!

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#591905 7-Mar-2012 19:04

Talkiet: I'm at the wrong end of a 90metre sealed driveway... You're personal opinion is that someone else should pay for that to be dug up and have fibre laid? Man, I'd vote for you if you can present a business case that makes that work!!!

I thought the whole idea of this UFB thing was to use state funds to ensure every home got service and cover out some of these sorts of issues.

I'm in a block where I'll need 1m of trench. Does this mean I get a credit paid to me on my tax and telco bill because I'm going to need much less than the average?

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#591908 7-Mar-2012 19:07

DonGould:
Talkiet: I'm at the wrong end of a 90metre sealed driveway... You're personal opinion is that someone else should pay for that to be dug up and have fibre laid? Man, I'd vote for you if you can present a business case that makes that work!!!

I thought the whole idea of this UFB thing was to use state funds to ensure every home got service and cover out some of these sorts of issues.

I'm in a block where I'll need 1m of trench. Does this mean I get a credit paid to me on my tax and telco bill because I'm going to need much less than the average?

No it means that incumbents keep raking it in, e.g. no regional WISPs were selected for instance.

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#591910 7-Mar-2012 19:09

Talkiet: I'm at the wrong end of a 90metre sealed driveway... You're personal opinion is that someone else should pay for that to be dug up and have fibre laid?

That'd be nice! As I noted above, it's a long way to my place from the nearest "node" so it could be pricy, although I've found 2 or 3 interested neighbours so I wonder whether it'll be possible to split the bill...

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