[Snap] Impossible to get 100Mbps on snap UFB?

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Jase2985

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#1322902 11-Jun-2015 16:23

hio77:
Worth considering if these graphs include PPPoE overhead in them too.

no idea

here is his test procedure
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-howto/31103-how-we-test-hardware-routers-revision-3

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#1322905 11-Jun-2015 16:25

Jase2985: even the best routers out there will never manager to get close to what you are "paying for" as you put it

its all about WAN to LAN throughput
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/view

even the most expensive devices out there struggle with 1Gbps connections

you wpuld probably need to build your own PFsense device (PC router) to get close to 1Gbps

I suppose I'm just annoyed that I have to fork out an extra $199 to get a service I thought I would be getting with my current router. I asked the question when I signed up and was assured the 7340 would be fine.

What's the likelihood of getting closer to 1gbps speeds with the latest fritzbox?

Would I be better getting a different brand router, I believe fritz boxes are the only ones that snap supports.

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#1322910 11-Jun-2015 16:28

Probably will, the chance of you actually noticing on a wired connection are slim. The new router they give you should have much better speed via Wi-Fi, though.

And yes, another router will work if you don't use the phone line. Snap will not support a 3rd party router if you call for support.

If they are offering you the 7490 for $200 you probably arn't going to do much better for the money anyway.

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#1322913 11-Jun-2015 16:35

no idea what you will see with an upgraded fritzbox but highly doubt it will be more than 900.

i have no idea what you are doing to even think the extra 100 odd mbps is even worth worrying about, is it just bragging rights?

just remember speeds are advertised up to 1Gbps not its going to be 1Gbps

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#1322916 11-Jun-2015 16:37

Jase2985:
hio77:
Worth considering if these graphs include PPPoE overhead in them too.

no idea

here is his test procedure
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-howto/31103-how-we-test-hardware-routers-revision-3

Yep, that sounds like no PPP overhead involved.

Ramrodd:
I suppose I'm just annoyed that I have to fork out an extra $199 to get a service I thought I would be getting with my current router. I asked the question when I signed up and was assured the 7340 would be fine.

What's the likelihood of getting closer to 1gbps speeds with the latest fritzbox?

Would I be better getting a different brand router, I believe fritz boxes are the only ones that snap supports.

The 7340 is "fine" but if you want to see the full performance, you will need something that can route faster.

7490 certainly gets well above the 900 mark.

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#1322920 11-Jun-2015 16:42

hio77:
7490 certainly gets well above the 900 mark.

you dont happen to have any examples of that do you?

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#1322925 11-Jun-2015 16:44

Jase2985:
hio77:
7490 certainly gets well above the 900 mark.

you dont happen to have any examples of that do you?

ill simply say i speak to someone who does extensive testing on snap.

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#1322927 11-Jun-2015 16:49

Ramrodd: [snip]
What's the likelihood of getting closer to 1gbps speeds with the latest fritzbox?

High, but pointless.

Speedtest.net doesn't represent likely real world experiences at that level.

Get another router if you want to see a higher speedtest.net result on your screen.

Don't bother if you're happy with real world performance.

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#1322931 11-Jun-2015 17:01

You won't get any better real world performance no matter what router you put in. 640Mbps should be enough for anyone.

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#1322933 11-Jun-2015 17:22

Ramrodd: I am having a similar problem with gigabit internet in Dunedin. I have a snap gigatown connection.

I know that many of you would drool at getting over 200mbps but I'm a bit annoyed that I'm not getting what I paid for.

I had a problem initially where I couldn't get over 70Mbps down (yes seventy, no missing zeros here). To snap's credit the helpdesk came to the party and that was fixed.

Since that time I still havent been able to get over 700Mbps. I have rung snap and been told that they have logged into my fritzbox and seen at some point that I have hit 800Mbps and that is perfectly fine. I was told if I wanted to get more than this then I would have to pay $199 for my fritzbox to be upgraded.

I originally was an adsl customer, and have been for over 2 years - our 24 month contract expired and now I am on an open contract. They told me I was not allowed to sign up for another 2 year term and receive another fritzbox.

Im not entirely happy with having to pay $199 to get a better service - does anyone have any ideas why my current fritzbox, the 7340 shouldn't be able to obtain faster speeds? Should I have to pay for an upgrade?

I remember a few people saying this was bound to happen, whether it was wireless, CPE not having the capacity for it (like here), or because a server couldn't provide it.

Just be satisfied and move on imo, you're not going to saturate even the speeds you're posting already in real world situations imo.

A gigabit per second really is a lot of data to move, and when a company with hundreds of employees gets a gigabit connection, theres a reason why they invest in their infrastructure to handle this sort of speed. Most home grade stuff isn't designed for it nor can many devices (eg wireless ) utilize it yet, something that of course chorus ignored in favour of the fanfare and hype around the promotion.

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#1322935 11-Jun-2015 17:28

Ramrodd: I am having a similar problem with gigabit internet in Dunedin. I have a snap gigatown connection.

I know that many of you would drool at getting over 200mbps but I'm a bit annoyed that I'm not getting what I paid for.

You really need to test with another router or ideally pc first.

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#1322936 11-Jun-2015 17:30

Publius:
Ramrodd: I am having a similar problem with gigabit internet in Dunedin. I have a snap gigatown connection.

I know that many of you would drool at getting over 200mbps but I'm a bit annoyed that I'm not getting what I paid for.

You really need to test with another router or ideally pc first.

not with the Windows PPPoE dialer however, it has a few issues getting over about 300mbit (IIRC) regardless of system.

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#1323759 13-Jun-2015 00:30

The cheapest way probally to get faster Gigatown speeds it to get an Edge router lite. And use your current Fritzbox to only do Wifi.

Found this speedtest result on the Ubiquity forums.
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Beta/PPPoE-offload-v1-5-0/td-p/774148/highlight/true

And this was done on a older firmware version. And on a PPP connection.

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#1323785 13-Jun-2015 07:11

I do not know if an Edgerouter Lite 3 will do 1000/1000, but mine is doing 200/200 on Snap UFB just fine. In my old ADSL config for it, I had lots of QoS priority queueing set up, and with that in place, I was only getting roughly 60/60 speeds, as it was not able to offload any packet processing onto the hardware. There are a number of features like QoS that can not be used if you want to do hardware offloading. Once I removed everything that was affecting the offloading, the speed shot up to full speed. There is still one offloading conflict - it can not currently do both VLAN and PPPoE offloading for IPv6, and since Snap uses PPPoE over VLAN 10, that means that IPv6 may not be able to be run at full speed.

This command shows the current status of offloading:

erl@erl:~$ show ubnt offload
IP offload module   : loaded
IPv4
forwarding: enabled
vlan      : enabled
pppoe     : enabled
IPv6
forwarding: enabled
vlan      : enabled
pppoe     : disabled

IPSec offload module: loaded

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#1323833 13-Jun-2015 09:31

I hate to say this, but someone has to:
Serious first world problems in this thread......and in Africa a little girl waits.

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