2 Degrees - CG-NAT Slowing Things Down?

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NickMack

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#2377507 18-Dec-2019 10:04

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@attewell Are you aware ping / icmp packets don't have priority on the network and basically go to the back of the line? So as network traffic increases these times will increase

Are you confirming that 2 Degrees explicitly deprioritises ICMP? Can you let us know what else goes to the back of the queue?

That would be an explicit decision from them because we are talking about Data Plane for the transport provider, not Control Plane.

not prioritising icmp is normal among many isps, and upstream providers alike, it doesn't affect performance of the connection nor in game performance either

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Nice, is that for Apple TV+ content?

Correct - At the moment that is hidding AKL-SYD which is having an impact.

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#2377583 18-Dec-2019 11:24

NickMack:

ethanbmnz:

Nick's smokeping is showing an increase in latency to statler and kif (IPv4, IPv6) at peak time.

Correct, we are seeing more traffic from Aust and US at the moment - This will be addressed with additional capacity coming, as well as our first AWS and Apple Caches due in Jan/Feb to be commissioned.

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@NickMack so would that be reason why gaming is being impacted? so in jan/Feb it maybe fixed?

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#2377585 18-Dec-2019 11:30

attewell:

NickMack:

ethanbmnz:

Nick's smokeping is showing an increase in latency to statler and kif (IPv4, IPv6) at peak time.

Correct, we are seeing more traffic from Aust and US at the moment - This will be addressed with additional capacity coming, as well as our first AWS and Apple Caches due in Jan/Feb to be commissioned.

Nick.

@NickMack so would that be reason why gaming is being impacted? so in jan/Feb it maybe fixed?

Not specifically - There is capacity, we don't control caches in Australia. AWS caches have just become available which will make a big impact on a bunch of things potentially like gaming, Prime etc.

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#2378205 19-Dec-2019 09:19

cyril7:
Hi, while it is probably fashonable to throw stones at tech changes, CG-Nat is not one of those technologies that will randomly increase your link latency, however as has been shown time and time again there are so many variables once your traffic leaves your ISPs routers that can and do impact on this aspect.

So I guess what I am saying, yes it would be nice to think CG-Nat is the big evil game crasher, I think you need to think again................... but I could be wrong.............................not!

Cyril

Thanks for your input Cyrill,
I wasnt throwing stones at the wonderful cg-nat that you like so much.But I must admit im a bit soured by the changes I moved to this provider and one of my questions was if they used cg-nat they answered no.Fast forward 2 months then they use it ok cool that will be $10 extra a month for static thanks.Now peak time ping issues .
Maybe i should just suck it up and live with it .......not !

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