Orcon introduces Fibre 4000 plan

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#2432364 4-Mar-2020 12:53

@mezla1058 You do know that the TP-Link x60 is all marketing? It has a Gigabit Ethernet port and not 10Gbit. Simply put, you're not going to find a mesh solution or even a consumer-grade router with the ability to take advantage of 4Gbit in the real world. You'll need to use 10Gbit Ethernet to take advantage of this. It actually doesn't sound like there will be any benefit for you going to the 4Gbit plan at all if you're currently using a mesh solution and not wired up for 10Gbit Ethernet. Just save your money.

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#2432403 4-Mar-2020 13:21

mezla1058:

I can now get Fibre 4000 at my Wellington address. A couple of questions to an Orcon representative:

1. ETA on the install if I order it today?

2. Any plans to replace Google WiFi mesh with something quicker to take full advantage of the new speeds? eg. TP-Link x60.

3. If not can I return my Google WiFi and buy my own mesh for the new connection? Will that break my current contract/penalties?

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4. Fibre 2000 plans in the future?

Some good questions but im not aware of any wireless solution that'll provide 4gig of sustained throughput

Come to think of it, I haven't even seen anything thats done better than 3-400 mb regardless of whats written on the box

got your 10gb network adapaters yet? :)

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#2432406 4-Mar-2020 13:24

dt:
mezla1058:

I can now get Fibre 4000 at my Wellington address. A couple of questions to an Orcon representative:

1. ETA on the install if I order it today?

2. Any plans to replace Google WiFi mesh with something quicker to take full advantage of the new speeds? eg. TP-Link x60.

3. If not can I return my Google WiFi and buy my own mesh for the new connection? Will that break my current contract/penalties?

Edit:

4. Fibre 2000 plans in the future?

Some good questions but im not aware of any wireless solution that'll provide 4gig of sustained throughput

Come to think of it, I haven't even seen anything thats done better than 3-400 mb regardless of whats written on the box

got your 10gb network adapaters yet? :)

But yeah. Expecting that over wireless on a consumer device is a bit much.

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#2432417 4-Mar-2020 13:42

hio77:

But yeah. Expecting that over wireless on a consumer device is a bit much.

That latency though 🤢 (😉)

What AP is that?

A while ago I purchased 2x grandstream gwn7610's based off a few recommendations on here but have found them to be trash and just looooooking for an excuse to replace them

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#2432421 4-Mar-2020 13:52

dt:

hio77:

But yeah. Expecting that over wireless on a consumer device is a bit much.

That latency though 🤢 (😉)

What AP is that?

A while ago I purchased 2x grandstream gwn7610's based off a few recommendations on here but have found them to be trash and just looooooking for an excuse to replace them

Eh, it's a test from Auckland to christchurch so not all that bad...

It's on a Spark Smart modem, who would have thought a RSP would provide a AP like that eh?

Of note though, the test device is my Hauwei Mate 20 Pro (which is a 4x4 client)

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#2432495 4-Mar-2020 14:26

hio77:

Eh, it's a test from Auckland to christchurch so not all that bad...

It's on a Spark Smart modem, who would have thought a RSP would provide a AP like that eh?

Of note though, the test device is my Hauwei Mate 20 Pro (which is a 4x4 client)

I was kidding about the latency

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#2432519 4-Mar-2020 14:45

If only the new ONT had 802.11ax, then that's real mobility ;)

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#2432983 5-Mar-2020 10:36

michaelmurfy:

@mezla1058 You do know that the TP-Link x60 is all marketing? It has a Gigabit Ethernet port and not 10Gbit. Simply put, you're not going to find a mesh solution or even a consumer-grade router with the ability to take advantage of 4Gbit in the real world. You'll need to use 10Gbit Ethernet to take advantage of this. It actually doesn't sound like there will be any benefit for you going to the 4Gbit plan at all if you're currently using a mesh solution and not wired up for 10Gbit Ethernet. Just save your money.

Good point. Didn't even look at that. Sorta assumed that it would have a 10gig port on the X60. It does seem like a bit of a rip-off then.

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#2432986 5-Mar-2020 10:44

mezla1058:

michaelmurfy:

@mezla1058 You do know that the TP-Link x60 is all marketing? It has a Gigabit Ethernet port and not 10Gbit. Simply put, you're not going to find a mesh solution or even a consumer-grade router with the ability to take advantage of 4Gbit in the real world. You'll need to use 10Gbit Ethernet to take advantage of this. It actually doesn't sound like there will be any benefit for you going to the 4Gbit plan at all if you're currently using a mesh solution and not wired up for 10Gbit Ethernet. Just save your money.

Good point. Didn't even look at that. Sorta assumed that it would have a 10gig port on the X60. It does seem like a bit of a rip-off then.

Why would you mix marketing with something actually pratical?

Router Vendors have been doing it for years with their "AC2300" It does 2.3gbit!

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#2433123 5-Mar-2020 13:04

So any ISPs/Chorus want me to be their Hyperfibre guinea pig in Wellington?

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#2433601 6-Mar-2020 12:30

mezla1058:

So any ISPs/Chorus want me to be their Hyperfibre guinea pig in Wellington?

I am currently using 40G/10G switches and adapters at home. May I join your guinea pig group? lol.

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#2441168 19-Mar-2020 11:38

So what are people thoughts to actually make use of the bandwidth, build a beefy pfsense box with 10gig copper nic and use the 10gig port on the ONT?

Would be kind of dodgy just to get a 10gig card for your PC and plug directly in...

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#2441173 19-Mar-2020 11:43

sylekta:

So what are people thoughts to actually make use of the bandwidth, build a beefy pfsense box with 10gig copper nic and use the 10gig port on the ONT?

Would be kind of dodgy just to get a 10gig card for your PC and plug directly in...

Most users are doing RGW mode, i belive orcon are only offering this.

in which case you could have 1G for your normal network (or possible multiple 1G's) and 10G to your machine.

Personally i intend on picking up a cheap mikrotik that will switch 10G, probably the 5 port SPF model, 2 Copper 10G ports (One to ONT, one to my testing machine - which would be USB3.1 5gbit NBASET) and then DAC to my machine

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#2441684 19-Mar-2020 20:21

the cost of a network with bandwidth greater than 1gbps is pretty high, better use of the network would be dedicated 1gbps connections to each of your capable devices. having 4 of these network connections would all get the max speeds, and it wouldnt affect latency on any of the links.

I have seen this first hand it does make more sense due to the cost.

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#2441691 19-Mar-2020 20:33

Jase2985:

the cost of a network with bandwidth greater than 1gbps is pretty high, better use of the network would be dedicated 1gbps connections to each of your capable devices. having 4 of these network connections would all get the max speeds, and it wouldnt affect latency on any of the links.

I have seen this first hand it does make more sense due to the cost.

that sounds like you went on a trip to the lab...

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