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#551350 29-Nov-2011 11:01

Cool. Thanks. That table makes things pretty clear. Do the ISP's make public which EUBA package they are offering?

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#551366 29-Nov-2011 11:25

hairy1: Steve, What will happen to all the "rural" exchanges and plans that those are based on? Will the current plans remain grandfathered or will ISP's be required to offer plans on all exchanges?

For example, Vodafone don't offer naked plan on "rural" exchanges.

I don't see any reason why they won't be able to offer services in any area from the 1st December at the same price..

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#551370 29-Nov-2011 11:26

hairy1: Cool. Thanks. That table makes things pretty clear. Do the ISP's make public which EUBA package they are offering?

ISP's only use EUBA0, classed as Basic UBA - it's essentually the regulated UBA product over Ethernet.

EUBA plans with CIR are for those ISP's who want to offer a VoIP offering with guaranteed CIR.

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#551374 29-Nov-2011 11:33

sbiddle:
hairy1: Cool. Thanks. That table makes things pretty clear. Do the ISP's make public which EUBA package they are offering?

ISP's only use EUBA0, classed as Basic UBA - it's essentually the regulated UBA product over Ethernet.

EUBA plans with CIR are for those ISP's who want to offer a VoIP offering with guaranteed CIR.

OK. So no-one has taken up the EUBA packages?

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#551379 29-Nov-2011 11:46

Slingshot offers EUBA0 as it exists at the moment. This is used already for customers in applicable exchange areas.

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#551389 29-Nov-2011 12:03

So can you get me changed in the next couple of days? No sense paying telecom/chorus more than needed for a nakid connection

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#551393 29-Nov-2011 12:13

You could certainly move over, you would need to call the contact centre and organise it, and you would switch on your billing date (If not too close)

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#551394 29-Nov-2011 12:18

Sorry folks, things are taking a bit longer than expected but the plan will still go live today. There's no need to panic, though - upgrades won't go through until your bill cycle. BTW the new plan includes the iTalk credit.
I'll review the extra $20 charge for rural customers next month for all n-DSL customers.
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#551414 29-Nov-2011 12:47

hairy1:
sbiddle:
hairy1: Cool. Thanks. That table makes things pretty clear. Do the ISP's make public which EUBA package they are offering?

ISP's only use EUBA0, classed as Basic UBA - it's essentually the regulated UBA product over Ethernet.

EUBA plans with CIR are for those ISP's who want to offer a VoIP offering with guaranteed CIR.

OK. So no-one has taken up the EUBA packages?

Practically every residential connection is using EUBA0 now as this uses Telecoms NGN/ethernet backhaul/handover network rather than the old ATM network.

The more expensive EUBA options with dedicated CIR for voice are offered on some business plans from some ISP's, however it requires a modem/router that can vlan tagging etc.

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#551535 29-Nov-2011 16:58

Hi guys,

Our new unlimited naked broadband plan is now available to existing and new customers. Please sign-up or upgrade at slingshot.co.nz/internet.

Plan changes won't take affect until your next billing period.

Let me know if any problems / feedback - aarons@team.slingshot.co.nz

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#551596 29-Nov-2011 19:55

Slingshot: Hi guys,

Our new unlimited naked broadband plan is now available to existing and new customers. Please sign-up or upgrade at slingshot.co.nz/internet.

Plan changes won't take affect until your next billing period.

Let me know if any problems / feedback - aarons@team.slingshot.co.nz

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Just signed up online. Look forward to getting connected!

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#553679 4-Dec-2011 20:26

Some very quick numbers, at 6.30pm on a Sunday evening. Tests conducted with one end on TCP port 2098, other on a random port, all zeros (so DPI won't find anything interesting).

Work (on FX) -> home: 1.76 MBytes/s

VPS (Florida) -> home: average 77 KBytes/s (but really variable; conducted over a minute)

VPS (Germany) -> home: average 83 KBytes/s (but really variable; conducted over a minute)

And outbound:

home -> Work (FX): 108 KBytes/s

home -> VPS (Florida): 107 KBytes/s

home -> VPS (Germany): 104 KBytes/s

so downloads heavily contended (or rateshaped)... uploads at line speed. If only line speed wasn't so slow -- roll on UFB...

My excuse for getting unlimited was "free national traffic" so it's nice to see that's fast.

International is really slow though. Now (8.20pm), those TCP sessions are crawling along at 40KBytes/s -- national is still fast.

If there was a "100GB/mo for $90, naked" option available, I'd far rather have that -- the capped naked plan was much faster. But I guess us naked DSL users are a weird bunch to begin with.

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#553724 4-Dec-2011 21:38

deadlyllama: Some very quick numbers, at 6.30pm on a Sunday evening. Tests conducted with one end on TCP port 2098, other on a random port, all zeros (so DPI won't find anything interesting).

Work (on FX) -> home: 1.76 MBytes/s

VPS (Florida) -> home: average 77 KBytes/s (but really variable; conducted over a minute)

VPS (Germany) -> home: average 83 KBytes/s (but really variable; conducted over a minute)

And outbound:

home -> Work (FX): 108 KBytes/s

home -> VPS (Florida): 107 KBytes/s

home -> VPS (Germany): 104 KBytes/s

so downloads heavily contended (or rateshaped)... uploads at line speed. If only line speed wasn't so slow -- roll on UFB...

My excuse for getting unlimited was "free national traffic" so it's nice to see that's fast.

International is really slow though. Now (8.20pm), those TCP sessions are crawling along at 40KBytes/s -- national is still fast.

If there was a "100GB/mo for $90, naked" option available, I'd far rather have that -- the capped naked plan was much faster. But I guess us naked DSL users are a weird bunch to begin with.

Wow, I was hoping for a bit better than that. I am maybe starting to regret changing over. Although I don't even know if my online sign up even worked. I haven't received any email to confirm the process has started.

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