timmmay:

 

What's a good ISP that doesn't use CGNat, has good routing, and good customer service?

 

Voyager.

timmmay:

What's a good ISP that doesn't use CGNat, has good routing, and good customer service? Vodafone and Bigpipe ruled out, Vodafone for poor service and routing, Bigpipe for not having a support phone.

I've always been fairly happy with Spark as a mobile provider. How's their routing and general fiber offering?

Guessing Spark, Skinny and Bigpipe for no cg-nat, not sure if the vocus guys do or not.

I'm on fibre Vocus (Slingshot) no CG-NAT. And as a bonus IP addresses are very sticky. I've had the same dynamic IP address for at least 3 years.

Pretty sure on my Bigpipe connection I paid a one off fee (?$45) for a static IP that is not CG-NAT.

Bye Bye 2degrees, hope Spark will have me back. In last month of contract now, rather have public IP over other advantages 2degrees offer.

You may also notice an impact in the below.

• Multiplayer video games where you’re hosting a session/server
• Website hosting
• Services or devices that rely on port forwarding
• Torrents will only be able to establish outbound connections
• Internet-enabled devices that are reached by IP address (e.g. IP cameras/security cameras)
• Remote access to home network storage, backups and remote desktop service
• VPN servers

Come on guys - there has been no official word just yet on how they're going to do this, if customers can opt-out etc so stop jumping to conclusions and blowing things out of proportion is all I can say.

For the majority of their customers - I don't think they'll notice a thing.

For the few that need a public IP - there will be a plan around this, just wait.

2degrees are still a great ISP - the support is great, the performance is great etc. Afraid what comes with this is the influx of customers who want to experience what a great ISP is about and IPv4 space is limited. There is only so many they can give out. I actually see most ISP's eventually doing this (with the exception of the IPv4 Hoarder, Spark). Remember, Snap (the ISP that was before 2degrees) were quite small so without looking I'd say their IP space was rather limited from the start. I am surprised this has not happened sooner.

That's disappointing to say the least. All the more reason for IPv6 adoption!

michaelmurfy:

 

Come on guys - there has been no official word just yet on how they're going to do this, if customers can opt-out etc so stop jumping to conclusions and blowing things out of proportion is all I can say.

 

For the majority of their customers - I don't think they'll notice a thing.

 

It won't affect most people, but technical people like those on Geekzone will be some that are most affected as we tend to do more things that this would break.

I'll not actually do anything until this is announced or maybe until it's implemented. I'd rather not have things break or act randomly because of this change, so I'd weigh up the good experience so far, the cost of a static IP address, and the cost of other vendors.

I agree with whoever said that most ISPs will have to do this eventually. Maybe it will drive IPv6 adoption. I turned IPv6 off on my router / PCs as weird things started happening (can't remember what it was 2 years ago), but maybe it's time to try it again.

Keen to know if I can opt out of CG-NAT, too. I have a few services forwarded through, not nearly enough to justify the $10 a month for static, but still enough to be annoying if I couldn't access externally.

A small reminder for those saying they will go (back) to Spark. Spark doesn't peer on the peering exchanges in NZ, so good routing is a big nope

danielfaulknor:

A small reminder for those saying they will go (back) to Spark. Spark doesn't peer on the peering exchanges in NZ, so good routing is a big nope