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  #2927787 15-Jun-2022 10:55
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Its about the path of least resistance.  When we put a customers site live or want to move it from one place to another requiring a DNS change, we seek the path of least resistance to get this done.

 

If the customer has an IT guy who knows how to point an A record at an IP, we just get them to do that, easy, no DNS or domain moving required.

 

If the customer has no idea what you are talking about, we find another way.  Often the easiest way is to shift the domain into our stable.  We don't host domains / DNS for profit, it is to save time and friction when we need a domain pointed.  Also we would never use a customers domain as leverage in any kind of commercial dispute.  If they customer wants their domain returned / shifted to another registrar, we make this happen.

 

On the registrant front, off course the customer should be listed as the domain registrant.  If DEVs or other IT people have their own name set at the registrant, they should be going through the exercise of changing the registrant to the customers name.  I had to do this 15 years or so ago because I stuffed up by putting my name in the registrant field very early on. 

 

That said, we do have one customer who did not want their name on the ownership, so we used our name to keep it private.  I feel this should be the exception, not the norm.




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  #2939676 8-Jul-2022 10:33
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It's not tooooo much of an issue if the webhost is competent. I used to be violently opposed to webhosts hosting DNS after I had two customers suffer massive email outages when a webhost pointed the MX records at their webserver instead of 365 and they couldn't answer if they knew what an MX record was and where it should be pointing. Webhosts are probably sick of dealing with IT providers who don't know their snuff from their aspect either. Communication is key, if the webhosting is complex then try to share or help the webhost, otherwise set expectations around when you can make a change if the webhost needs to shift A records etc.





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  #2940628 11-Jul-2022 09:51
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The number of times Ive needed to change a DNS entry , only to find the client has no idea who controls or who has access
to the DNS  records  .......
Ive even had an instance where Domain records/registration hadn't been transfered to the new owner of a company, so that took 2+ months to sort out

 

Then I had the case  where the old IT support had control over DNS , but decided to be difficult & wouldnt play ball (or even discuss/action) with the new IT support or the new Website dev.

 

It can be loose loose loose either way

 

 




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  #2947092 27-Jul-2022 20:23
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The word you wanted was 'lose'. not 'loose'.

 

But your answer also explains why a company needs to determine who they trust to run their domain name and then have them take care of it, and not just assume their web people will (unless that's the agreement).

 

Because the web people will only care when the website works... and won't be phased by anything else (like, say, your email).

 

When I worked for an Email specialist vendor we would simply prescribe what DNS was required and have the customer arrange it, whether themselves or via their integrator. We never presumed to take it over.

 

Funny that web devs feel the need, when what they want usually amounts to a single pair of records.




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