Why is there no Private Domain Registration for .NZ domains?

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savag3

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#321638 22-Apr-2010 12:19

This situation also occurs with companies. If you are a director of a company your residential address is available for anyone to see on companies.govt.nz and it is illegal to use anything other than the correct address. At least your phone number isn't available.

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#321659 22-Apr-2010 13:09

AKILL: Good replies guys (mostly).

Yeah looks like I'll just use a PO box/mobile number.

And no I'm not doing anything 'dodgy', I just value my privacy; is that a crime these days or what?

Main concern is not telemarketers but malicious folk text-bombing or ring-spamming or something like that. There are ways to screw with somebody if you know their info, and you have the motivation. :(

Remember that that detail is there for the purpose of being able to communicate with you. If you are getting text-bombed or ring spammed, then I would suggest a complaint to your provider is in order ...

Probably not going to happen though.

Also, somebody mentioned putting a job title/business name as the name. Sounds like a great idea but are there any special requirements for doing that so you don't get done for fraud?

If you put in the job title, then how do you prove ownership of the domain?

Business name I agree with. I always use a "generic" email address for registrations and the /name/ I usually put in as "Network Operations".

This way, if I move on, the generic address still can receive emails pertinent to the domain name AND any correspondance that may be included will be addressed in such a way to get to the correct person.

Lastly, if someone is harassing you from the details listed in the whois, notify the DNC - they have a clause in there specifically forbidding the registration details of domains to be used to harass people. (Small help from overseas annoyances, but for NZ based ones ...)

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#323346 27-Apr-2010 03:06

A random idea to try which others do is to create a shell company and have the domain registered and held by it. Sure people can always look you up in the company registrar, but it certainly does add another layer of obfuscation to keep your details relatively "private"

& oh yeah, buy a 2 Degree number for a couple of bucks and use that for anything that wants a phone number

Then.... head down to your local supermarket to stock up on tinned goods for your secret hideout ;-)

(why take your privacy only half way? head to the woods!)

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#323349 27-Apr-2010 03:55

Surely ownership should be allowed to be registered against a position in company if they so wish instead of an individual. This is common enough in politics that ownership, power or responsibilities are vested in a position and not a named individual.

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#323373 27-Apr-2010 08:00

Fraktul: Surely ownership should be allowed to be registered against a position in company if they so wish instead of an individual. This is common enough in politics that ownership, power or responsibilities are vested in a position and not a named individual.

Correct - but the details for a company directory must be accurate and kept up to date: http://www.companies.govt.nz/cms/how-do-i/learn-what-a-company-is/company-directors/obligations-as-a-director

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#323384 27-Apr-2010 08:33

Sorry I'm not sure if I see the point you are making?

Somewhere an accurate record needs to be kept of who holds a position yes, I am unsure why that needs to be in a domain registrar however? Surely a company can be trusted to keep a record of who held a position at a particular point in time.

Otherwise if you used an individuals details whats to stop them claiming they own the domain directly, especially if it is not immediately relatable to the companies brand, market or products.

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#324635 29-Apr-2010 11:52

Fraktul: Sorry I'm not sure if I see the point you are making?

Somewhere an accurate record needs to be kept of who holds a position yes, I am unsure why that needs to be in a domain registrar however? Surely a company can be trusted to keep a record of who held a position at a particular point in time.

Otherwise if you used an individuals details whats to stop them claiming they own the domain directly, especially if it is not immediately relatable to the companies brand, market or products.

Sorry, My comment was somewhat ... short.

What I was meaning is there is nothing to stop a domain being registered to a company and the contact details kept "generic" enough (covering staff changes, etc).

However if you are registering a company with the aim of keeping your domain name information away from the general public, then you need to not be the director of the company, as anyone can do a whois lookup on the domain name, follow through on the companies register and retrieve the company director information.

I wasn't meaning to imply that an individuals name somehow needed to be pushed through to the registrar.

I would strongly recommend that any company retain "ownership" of the domain and NOT register under an individuals name ...

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#324695 29-Apr-2010 13:32

Fraktul:

Otherwise if you used an individuals details whats to stop them claiming they own the domain directly, especially if it is not immediately relatable to the companies brand, market or products.

It would be interesting to see someone put it to the test.

However the company can just use their login with the registrarr to change the details to whatever they want anytime.

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#324794 29-Apr-2010 15:42

Ragnor: However the company can just use their login with the registrarr to change the details to whatever they want anytime.

Our registrar requires a signed paper form as if they get audited, the DNC requires it. I assume this is industry standard?

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#325695 1-May-2010 23:35

Why not setup a VoIP service with a 02x-xxxxxx number, or even link it to an 0900 number? Use it as a business phone as well so you save on outgoing calls, and know that any caller is related to business only. Make money from the spammers!

And yeah stay cool, swear words and stuff are not interesting to people who are trying to think of ways to help you.

Time to find a new industry!

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#325698 1-May-2010 23:36

nate:
Ragnor: However the company can just use their login with the registrarr to change the details to whatever they want anytime.

Our registrar requires a signed paper form as if they get audited, the DNC requires it. I assume this is industry standard?

Well of course the government and the CIA could be watching too, so they would need to know where you live...

Time to find a new industry!

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#325811 2-May-2010 16:34

The having the address for company directors is a pain in the ... since people seem to think they can post things to that address rathar than the PO Box.

I dont think I have had any problems with contact via my domain details other than the usual letter from world most expensive domain register offering registration. They dont have a freepost address anymore :(

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