lchiu7:

 

KiwiSurfer:

 

Stu1:

 

The vendor cubic has delivered systems across the UK, the United States, and Australia, they have never implemented a single solution covering an entire country which is causing challenges. 

 

 

It's one reason why I am somewhat surprised the govt didn't go with Thales. They are the vendor behind AT HOP's system, so they have local knowledge, and I believe they are involved with the Netherland's system (their equipment looks fairly similar to Auckland). Thales is possibly the vendor for Singapore too.

 

Cubic to be fair are experienced - they have done the fare systems for many large PT networks overseas including several of Australia's capital cities.

 

Funnily enough AT HOP was meant to be a national system but the govt of the day got cold feet and dropped that plan, leaving AT to operate it on its own. What might have been if the govt pushed ahead and made it national in the first place...

 

 

Wasn't there some dispute being Wellington wanting to use Snapper (don't know the platform) and Auckland wanting to use their system which causing the delay?

 

Snapper has finally implemented payment by CC using NFC but there are limits. It cannot recognise that a patron has a Community Services Card and therefore has significant discounts on travel. And I don't think it can handle students either.

 

From my understanding your card isn't billed until the end of day so all your travel across the day can be captured but unlike if you are using a Snapper card where a transfer within 60 minutes is free, using contactless will incur a new trip charge.

 

It might require all patrons to create Snapper accounts and attach their CC details to them for discounts to be recognised (CC number is read, matches a client who is a community services card holder or student and charge accordingly) but for transfers, given the date/time of a swipe must be captured, if two transactions are recorded as occurring within 60 minutes for the same CC, treat it as a transfer.

 

What does AT Hop do? I am informed if you have a Gold Card you get a different AT Hop card that won't charge you after 9am whereas in Wellington you show your Gold Card and the drivers clicks a button to record a trip.

 

The solution does have transfer functionality, Ecan has a 2 hour limit . Any trips in the transfer window show as one journey. The Payments are different. CPC cards are debited full days travel end of day . Transit cards can be topped up real time where as AT was 24 hours think they are an hour now but still slow compared to snapper or the NTS solution