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#813907 8-May-2013 19:33

freitasm: Good luck with blocking sales of foreign-based VPN services.

The draft bill says the government can force ISP's to ban it (block it somehow) or face stiff fines!

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#813913 8-May-2013 19:40

kyhwana2:
freitasm: Good luck with blocking sales of foreign-based VPN services.

The draft bill says the government can force ISP's to ban it (block it somehow) or face stiff fines!

I read "face stiffness" before dropping back to "stiff fines"...

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#813936 8-May-2013 20:13

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kyhwana2:
freitasm: Good luck with blocking sales of foreign-based VPN services.

The draft bill says the government can force ISP's to ban it (block it somehow) or face stiff fines!

I read "face stiffness" before dropping back to "stiff fines"...

Well, by face stiffness, you could mean they'll be f@(ked by the government, which is true as well.

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#814021 8-May-2013 21:36

Just received:

A Bill that will modernise telecommunications security legislation passed its first reading in parliament today, Communications and Information Technology Minister Amy Adams says.

The Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Bill will ensure the legislation remains effective in a rapidly-changing telecommunications environment.

The Bill will replace the current Telecommunications (Interception Capability) Act 2004, following a review that started in 2011.

There are two parts to the Bill. The first part relates to obligations for telecommunications companies, and is focused on modernising the existing interception capability regime.

“The intent of the legislation is to update existing obligations on the telecommunications industry to make the obligations more proportionate, flexible, and certain. It will also improve the existing administration and enforcement processes in order to lift compliance levels,” Ms Adams says.

The changes will not in any way alter the authority of police or intelligence and security agencies to intercept telecommunications, or reduce the checks and balances on how these agencies can access and use private communications information. These matters are dealt with under separate legislation.

The second aspect of the Bill introduces a formal and transparent network security regime. New Zealand does not presently have any formal scheme to effectively manage and address potential national security risks associated with the design, build and operation of the telecommunications infrastructure.

The proposed changes will mean network operators will be obliged to engage with the Government through the GCSB on network security, where it might affect New Zealand’s national security and economic well-being.

“Updating the legislation will ensure New Zealand’s telecommunications companies have a clearer understanding of how to meet their interception obligations while ensuring their network infrastructure does not pose a risk to New Zealand’s national security or economic well-being, as we move to an increasingly online world.

“I am open to considering any reasonable suggestions made during the select committee process that will help to ensure a robust and durable telecommunications security regime.”

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#814039 8-May-2013 22:06

freitasm: Just received:

A Bill that will modernise telecommunications security legislation passed its first reading in parliament today, Communications and Information Technology Minister Amy Adams says.

I noted how none of the National MPs rose to give any kind of justification or reason why these bills needed to be passed..

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#814053 8-May-2013 22:33

this totally sucks, i mean. they're just tying to avoid another kim dotcom debacle. any sort of government monitoring is totally immoral unless it is against someone planing a terrorist attack or something

problem is, these days, everything is labeled as terrorism. oh i heard you go to socialist meetings. you must be a TERRORIST. oh i heard you read the hacker news often, you must be a TERRORIST and we should be allowed to monitor all your communications on the grounds you are a TERRORIST.

rubbish

anyway, they can't intercept TOR still.

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#814216 9-May-2013 09:17

kyhwana2:
freitasm: Good luck with blocking sales of foreign-based VPN services.

The draft bill says the government can force ISP's to ban it (block it somehow) or face stiff fines!

That is not even feasible let alone actually part of the bill.

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#814217 9-May-2013 09:17

kyhwana2:
freitasm: Just received:

A Bill that will modernise telecommunications security legislation passed its first reading in parliament today, Communications and Information Technology Minister Amy Adams says.

I noted how none of the National MPs rose to give any kind of justification or reason why these bills needed to be passed..

They don't have that burden. Other (opposing) members need to raise questions and have them answered.

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#814221 9-May-2013 09:21

connector: this totally sucks, i mean. they're just tying to avoid another kim dotcom debacle. any sort of government monitoring is totally immoral unless it is against someone planing a terrorist attack or something

problem is, these days, everything is labeled as terrorism. oh i heard you go to socialist meetings. you must be a TERRORIST. oh i heard you read the hacker news often, you must be a TERRORIST and we should be allowed to monitor all your communications on the grounds you are a TERRORIST.

rubbish

anyway, they can't intercept TOR still.

I still don't see why this bill is so bad. It infringes on *none* of our personal liberties and simply clarifies the requirements for internet providers have the capability to comply with already legal wiretapping warrants.

Seriously, people need to pick their battles when it comes to issues like this otherwise we end up drowned out when concerning legislation is proposed.

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#814290 9-May-2013 10:09

1080p: It infringes on *none* of our personal liberties and simply clarifies the requirements for internet providers have the capability to comply with already legal wiretapping warrants.

Wrong. The government press releases are extremely misleading. The bill does way more than clarify wiretapping requirements for internet service providers.

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#814347 9-May-2013 10:36

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1080p: It infringes on *none* of our personal liberties and simply clarifies the requirements for internet providers have the capability to comply with already legal wiretapping warrants.

Wrong. The government press releases are extremely misleading. The bill does way more than clarify wiretapping requirements for internet service providers.

Specifically?

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#814374 9-May-2013 11:05

From the proposed legislation*:

5 Purpose of this Act relating to interception capability

The purpose of this Act in relation to interception capability is to—

(a) ensure that surveillance agencies are able to effectively carry out the lawful interception of telecommunications under an interception warrant or any other lawful interception authority; and

(b) ensure that surveillance agencies, in obtaining assistance for the interception of telecommunications, do not create barriers to the introduction of new or innovative
telecommunications technologies; and

(c) ensure that network operators and service providers have the freedom to choose system design features and speci?cations that are appropriate for their own purposes.

6 Principles relating to interception capability

The following principles must be applied by persons who exercise powers and carry out duties under this Act in relation to interception capability, if those principles are relevant to those
powers or duties:

(a) the principle that the privacy of telecommunications that are not subject to an interception warrant or any other lawful interception authority must be maintained
to the extent provided for in law:

(b) the principle that the interception of telecommunications, when authorised under an interception warrant or any other lawful interception authority, must be carried
out without unduly interfering with any telecommunications.

Please, tell me, which of my civil liberties is being infringed upon by this bill?

*Emboldening of text is my own.

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#814377 9-May-2013 11:09

The part of this proposal I love the most is here:

"...obtain call associated data and the content of telecommunications (other than telecommunications that are
not authorised to be intercepted under the warrant or lawful authority) in a useable format..."

I'm sure ISPs will be able to decrypt all that SSL traffic no problem. It is not as if this is difficult now, right? xD

Oh, ignore me. Subsection four provides an out for operators for encryption not provided by them. I'm glad all law makers aren't floating in a magical world. :)

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#814388 9-May-2013 11:25

The section regarding overseas telecommunications services (39) will not actually affect many people at all:

This section applies to any telecommunications services that are provided from outside New Zealand and resold in New Zealand by a network operator.

So, unless the particular service is resold by a NZ based network operator it does not apply at all.

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#814394 9-May-2013 11:33

After reading section 46 I am now in favour of this legislation rather than not caring one way or another.

This requires network operators to notify when a range of security incidents are detected. This is a good thing! What is worse than having your credit card information hacked from a company database?

Having your credit card information stolen then the company lying to you about it. At least this way they will be forced to notify someone even if it is not complete public disclosure.

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