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Topic # 106510 25-Jul-2012 12:09 Send private message

I am looking to buy a new plasma and often see people on the forums discussing the merits of each version of plasma.

Think I'm set on a Panasonic as they seem to be universally accepted as the best but I don't get the difference between a VT , GT , UT, ST or whatever else T.

Can someone enlighten me as to me they all seen similar but the prices vary and so I assume there are reasons for this.

For example the TH-P50ST50Z is $1999 at NL but the TH-P50UT50Z is $1479

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  Reply # 661684 25-Jul-2012 12:32 Send private message

The truth is I don't really think it matters. 

I have just bought a Panasonic plasma TV. I can't tell you the model number but I can tell you the following: 

  • It is 42" 
  • It is Full HD as in 1080p
  • It has three HDMI in connections and a Digital Audio Out. 
  • It was last years model at Harvey Norman and cost me $770.
  • It has an internet connection and something called Viera Cast which I haven't bothered with and don't expect to, as it is hooked up to my T-Box, Xbox and BluRay home theater which is is plenty.
  • I love it with all my heart. 
I think there are three factors which bear consideration: specs, price and what the thing looks like when you actually see it.

Model numbers often denote the year of production V might be 2012 U for 2013 and there might be 'extra features' that the new model has that last years doesn't. The Harvey sales guy told me that panels are about as good as they are going to get for a bit and they are now pushing web type services, which aren't compelling in the least if you ask me. 

Just my two cents. 




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  Reply # 661687 25-Jul-2012 12:36 Send private message

langers1972: I am looking to buy a new plasma and often see people on the forums discussing the merits of each version of plasma.

Think I'm set on a Panasonic as they seem to be universally accepted as the best but I don't get the difference between a VT , GT , UT, ST or whatever else T.

Can someone enlighten me as to me they all seen similar but the prices vary and so I assume there are reasons for this.

For example the TH-P50ST50Z is $1999 at NL but the TH-P50UT50Z is $1479


VT = Vunderful Telly (top of the Range)
GT - Great Telly (next one down)
ST = Super Telly (Super but not as good as Great)
UT = Underwhelming Telly (Lowest of the range but still 1080p)
XT = Xtra TV (its got a bit extra from standard definition - 768 resolution so lower than the above)

TH = not sure
P = Plasma
50 = 50 inch
ST = middle of the range
50 = 2012 model
Z = New Zealand model.

TH = not sure
P = Plasma
50 = 50 inch
ST = middle of the range
30 = 2011 model
Z = New Zealand model.

TH = not sure
P = Plasma
65 = 65 inch
VT = top of the range
50 = 2012 model
Z = New Zealand model.
etc........

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  Reply # 661704 25-Jul-2012 12:51 Send private message

crackrdbycracku: The truth is I don't really think it matters.  
 
 

The naming conventions do matter beacuae it helps determine what model you are are getting in terms of year and specs.

it is said that this years ST models (eg a THP50ST50Z  - 2012 50 inch middle of the range) has a panel quality roughly equalt o last years VT model (eg a THP 50VT30Z)

Broadly speaking this years models (with the 50 at the end) are better in many respects than lasts years (with the 30 on the end). Panel visual quality is better and there are more / better features. For example this years ST50 (the one I have) has got a decent web browser in it - where as last years was pretty naf. Teh one major difference is that  a 30 model will cost you much less than a 50 model because it is esssentially old stcok.

Go here for a comparison http://www.panasonic.co.nz/products/home-entertainment/viera-tvs



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  Reply # 661706 25-Jul-2012 12:53 Send private message

Thanks, I knew someone would know



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  Reply # 661892 25-Jul-2012 17:06 Send private message

Minimoke, I hear what you're saying about the 30 compared to 50 models. If you were me would you get the THP50GT30Z for $1799 or the THP50ST50Z for $1999?

I get that the 30s are last years models but is a last years GT better than this years ST?

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  Reply # 661906 25-Jul-2012 17:37 Send private message

I get that the 30s are last years models but is a last years GT better than this years ST?


This year's ST is better than last year's VT.



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  Reply # 661922 25-Jul-2012 18:01 Send private message

OK so you're better off going for the best quality current year model over the top of the range one from last year?

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  Reply # 661926 25-Jul-2012 18:06 Send private message

langers1972: OK so you're better off going for the best quality current year model over the top of the range one from last year?


Not as a general rule. Some years will see very little change from one year's models to the next and now and then, there will be a significant improvement. 2012 is such a year. At least where Panasonic is concerned. Samsung went backwards in many regards.



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  Reply # 661927 25-Jul-2012 18:11 Send private message

Thankyou both that's really helpful

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  Reply # 662033 25-Jul-2012 21:21 Send private message

langers1972: Minimoke, I hear what you're saying about the 30 compared to 50 models. If you were me would you get the THP50GT30Z for $1799 or the THP50ST50Z for $1999?

I get that the 30s are last years models but is a last years GT better than this years ST?

I had the 55gt30 and it was a nice TV - except I had to return it. No 55gt50 this year so settled for the 50st50 and am more than happy. Have to say I haven't had a huge amount of screen time but the picture is beautiful The one really obvious difference is the web browser. Last years so so useless it was useless. This year it actually works. The You Tube app also seems much better. For $200 I'd definitely go for the 50st50!

When I got the ST home I calibrated it with Digital Video Essentials (always calibrate your new TV!!!) and it was pretty much spot on right out of the box - there was only one wee negligible tweak. You can't get much better than that!

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  Reply # 662040 25-Jul-2012 21:25 Send private message

minimoke: You can't get much better than that!


You can with proper calibration.

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  Reply # 662089 25-Jul-2012 22:35 Send private message

fahrenheit:
minimoke: You can't get much better than that!


You can with proper calibration.

Duh - well yes - if you want to pay someone for the pleasure. My comment is made in the context of someone coming to terms with the models numbers. I suspect talk of advanced calibration methods would boil some brain cells - with all due respect to the OP.

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  Reply # 662109 25-Jul-2012 23:22 Send private message

minimoke:
fahrenheit:
minimoke: You can't get much better than that!


You can with proper calibration.

Duh - well yes - if you want to pay someone for the pleasure. My comment is made in the context of someone coming to terms with the models numbers.


I don't profess to know where the OP's standards fall in regard to reference performance, I was merely adding some balance to your statement.

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  Reply # 662832 27-Jul-2012 10:54 Send private message

Complete dummy here! but I can contribute that I just bought the THP50ST50Z from Harvey Norman's for $1755 in their sale last weekend, not sure if its still on, but worth a look.

"always calibrate your new tv"? is that in a "dummies" capability? or a job for an expert? thanks.

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  Reply # 662836 27-Jul-2012 10:59

kate113: Complete dummy here! but I can contribute that I just bought the THP50ST50Z from Harvey Norman's for $1755 in their sale last weekend, not sure if its still on, but worth a look.

"always calibrate your new tv"? is that in a "dummies" capability? or a job for an expert? thanks.


To get your flat panel TV calibrated professionally generally costs $300-500 depending on where in the country you are and whether you have someone local who can do it.  

I'd say the general home user wouldn't notice a substantial difference, but for people who are serious about getting the most out of their equipment in terms of color reproduction and fidelity to the source material, then it would be worth it.

"Always calibrate your new TV" but only if you care about that sort of thing

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