Igloo drop price of box by $100

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#828447 30-May-2013 19:39

The beginning of the end for Igloo?

Shove another tuner and a HDD in there and it would sell like hot cakes. It's a no-brainer I would have thought.

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#828465 30-May-2013 20:21

Does anyone else feel like igloo only continues to exist so sky can point to it and say that people have options (or might even go as far as saying "competition"), and that they don't have a monopoly?
Baseless comment but curious if anyone agrees.

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#828487 30-May-2013 21:17

mattwnz:

TVNZ can't seem to win, they had the tivo which was a superior device due to being a full HD PVR. They could have done something really good with that platform.

It's not that TVNZ can't win - it's that through a series of bungles and gross incompetence it seemingly refuses to win.

Tivo - good product and, for the time, good price with a feature set that no other product on the market at that time can touch. Stuff up the retail channel, stuffs up the product offering, stuffs up the promotion and loses its shirt.

Igloo - wind forward. Finally some good value add options with a solid partner (Sky) that is at least a better option than CASPA. Now that it finally has the content offering that Tivo lacked, it decides to go with rubbish hardware that isn't vaguely competitive with the other options that now exist (single tuner, no hard drive, no recording capability - WTF?).

Imagine if they had instead launched the Tivo through proper retail channels instead of Telecom, with the igloo partnership in place for the add on package with Sky, the home networkking package enabled by default, and a decent PPV/rental service instead of the lamentable CASPA. They could have built a fantastic market base with a solid recurring revenue stream.

Instead, they loaded their gun and shot their foot off. Then, when they noticed that some toes were still hanging and attached by shreds of skin, they opted to reload and shoot some more. It eludes me why heads haven't rolled at a senior management and board level over the tens of millions they have squandered. Idiots.

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#828488 30-May-2013 21:18

eXDee: Does anyone else feel like igloo only continues to exist so sky can point to it and say that people have options (or might even go as far as saying "competition"), and that they don't have a monopoly?
Baseless comment but curious if anyone agrees.

Although I can't see how, as both are owned by the same company.

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#828489 30-May-2013 21:19

scuwp: The beginning of the end for Igloo?

Shove another tuner and a HDD in there and it would sell like hot cakes. It's a no-brainer I would have thought.

That device sounds like the tivo, which didn't, although eventually they must have sold them all. But with the right marketing it could have had great potential.

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#828503 30-May-2013 22:13

mattwnz:
eXDee: Does anyone else feel like igloo only continues to exist so sky can point to it and say that people have options (or might even go as far as saying "competition"), and that they don't have a monopoly?
Baseless comment but curious if anyone agrees.

Although I can't see how, as both are owned by the same company.

Yeah, though it reminds me of them pointing to Vodaclear's cable network and saying it's competition. When they are just reselling their services.

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#828557 31-May-2013 07:14

eXDee:
mattwnz:
eXDee: Does anyone else feel like igloo only continues to exist so sky can point to it and say that people have options (or might even go as far as saying "competition"), and that they don't have a monopoly?
Baseless comment but curious if anyone agrees.

Although I can't see how, as both are owned by the same company.

Yeah, though it reminds me of them pointing to Vodaclear's cable network and saying it's competition. When they are just reselling their services.

what is this "Vodaclear cable network" you write about?

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#828561 31-May-2013 07:41

KiwiNZ: what is this "Vodaclear cable network" you write about?

I'm unsure too. It should be referred to as its proper name. Vodafone Cable Network.

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#828576 31-May-2013 08:31

I would be tempted by Igloo if they had a satellite option. We don't get any UHF signal (and I mean none as in zero).

Our only options at the moment are Sky (which we have) or Freeview Satellite (which is a bit limited)

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#828597 31-May-2013 09:23

can the Igloo box get Sommet??

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#828603 31-May-2013 09:31

mattbush: Classic example of trying to sell something the market doesnt really want.

If it was full HD and a PVR I would get it and pay a bit more.

You do realise that only TV1,TV2 and TV3 are full HD on freeview HD though?
Igloo at $100 seem an ok price, given it's a freeview HD box just like any other at that price.

Doesn't have the freeview MHEG5 EPG but I'd bank on sky providing this info far longer than whoever is providing the TIVO content, given SKY are producing the EPG content for their own devices already anyway.

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#828620 31-May-2013 10:00

old3eyes: can the Igloo box get Sommet??

no.

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#828641 31-May-2013 10:17

NonprayingMantis:
old3eyes: can the Igloo box get Sommet??

no.

Wrong.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10884180

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#828660 31-May-2013 10:33

robjg63:
NonprayingMantis:
old3eyes: can the Igloo box get Sommet??

no.

Wrong.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10884180

"A note on Igloo's Facebook page raised eyebrows suggesting Igloo - 51 per cent owned by Sky TV - tried to block the newcomer.Joyce said Igloo was not opposed to it.

Reeves said the lack of an electronic programme guide on Igloo was one issue for Sommet."

hmm, that article doesn't state it conclusively either way. not being opposed to something is different to actually carrying it. I know Igloo doesn't have MHEG5, and it seems to imply that even if they have the channel, they won't have the EPG, which would suck royally for Igloo customers. Luckily there aren't very many igloo customers :P

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#828664 31-May-2013 10:36

I never quite got the value proposition of Igloo. "It's like Sky but every so slightly cheaper and without all the nice features". Sure, OK. Seems like Sky trying to pretend they're innovative whilst stifling innovation.

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