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#216814 21-May-2009 21:05

WaffleMakerMan:
ockel: Is this because you cant get Sky HDi (sic) or due to your television set?

Na its because I don't want to buy a HDi and cannot get FreeviewHD where I live :)

Argh...

You don't buy a HDi. Sky own it..

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#216871 22-May-2009 08:00

WaffleMakerMan: Na its because I don't want to buy a HDi and cannot get FreeviewHD where I live :)

Ahhh..... its not because you CANT get it, its because you WONT get it. If you want the good stuff you gotta pay for it. But I hear the plight of many people like you outside the DTT footprint. Theres an online petition about that linked somewhere from these forums......

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#216896 22-May-2009 09:45

Sky have updated some of the DVB data to map all of the SD channels off the TVNZ freeview transponder, but that hasn't been added to the STB line up yet.

Hi Steven, so does this appear to include TV1/2 or will sky remain with there own TV1/2 feeds on 12671.

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#216958 22-May-2009 13:08

cyril7:
Sky have updated some of the DVB data to map all of the SD channels off the TVNZ freeview transponder, but that hasn't been added to the STB line up yet.

Hi Steven, so does this appear to include TV1/2 or will sky remain with there own TV1/2 feeds on 12671.

Cheers
Cyril

The update allows for them to map in any of the TVNZ channels off 12483H into their STBs. As this transponder will be carrying the regional TV One feeds I'm assuming they will pull the SD transmissions straigh off there. Shortly after the 1st June I'd expect them to stop their own feeds on 12671H

Come the 1st July they would then map TVNZ 6+7 off the same transponder.

At the moment they are still only showing 6 HD feeds off 12331 and 12358, with no sign of the new TV One and TV 2 HD transmissions.

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#217224 23-May-2009 14:58

So will us poor Freeview DVB-S viewers be able to get TV1 & TV2 in HD?
If not why not?
I thought the only reason that Freeview DVB-S was not in HD is because of the bandwidth required and cost.
Would this require a DVB-S2 card in the computer?

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#217248 23-May-2009 16:34

CYaBro: So will us poor Freeview DVB-S viewers be able to get TV1 & TV2 in HD?

If not why not?

I thought the only reason that Freeview DVB-S was not in HD is because of the bandwidth required and cost.

Would this require a DVB-S2 card in the computer?

Sky are managing the HD broadcasts over DVB-S and have chosen unsuprisingly to encrypt them.

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#217256 23-May-2009 16:57

openmedia:
CYaBro: So will us poor Freeview DVB-S viewers be able to get TV1 & TV2 in HD?

If not why not?

I thought the only reason that Freeview DVB-S was not in HD is because of the bandwidth required and cost.

Would this require a DVB-S2 card in the computer?

Sky are managing the HD broadcasts over DVB-S and have chosen unsuprisingly to encrypt them.

Will it ever look as good as it presently does on Freeviw HD?

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#217393 24-May-2009 13:04

Would it be correct that Sky will need to transmit new HD broadcasts for TV1/2 as the current Freeview DVB-S ones are SD? Will these even be compatible with earlier Sky boxes? Where will they find the bandwidth without dropping the bitrates of several other channels even lower than they are now? Several SD channels are such poor quality now, they make illegal Divx cam movies look good.

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#217398 24-May-2009 13:22

Yes Sky will put up its own encrypted HD streams of TV1/2, and from what Steve tells us will be pointing SD subs to the FreeView streams, which of course are compatible with older Sky STBs, Sky subs already pull Parliment and TeReo (if not a few others) off FreeView muxs, one assumes the HD TV1/2 will go in the current DVB-S2 muxs Sky use for other HD services, so should not impact on SD services, infact should free up a bit of space.

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#217446 24-May-2009 17:08

My understanding is there is only room for 1 more HD channel on the DVB-S2 muxs.
The quality of HD is going to take a hit if this is the case, might have to see what blue ray discs are for hire.

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#217539 24-May-2009 21:34

openmedia:
WaffleMakerMan:
ockel: Is this because you cant get Sky HDi (sic) or due to your television set?

Na its because I don't want to buy a HDi and cannot get FreeviewHD where I live :)

Argh...

You don't buy a HDi. Sky own it..

Don't want to rent it from sky I mean

ockel: Ahhh..... its not because you CANT get it, its because you WONT get it. If you want the good stuff you gotta pay for it.

Indeed I don't wanna cough up the $$$

Hopefully some of the SD channels get a quality boost when sky pulls there SD versions of TV1 and TV2

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#217562 25-May-2009 00:30

WaffleMakerMan:

ockel: Ahhh..... its not because you CANT get it, its because you WONT get it. If you want the good stuff you gotta pay for it.

Indeed I don't wanna cough up the $$$

Hopefully some of the SD channels get a quality boost when sky pulls there SD versions of TV1 and TV2

LoL

Good luck with that

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#217879 26-May-2009 01:34

I'd much rather have Discovery and NatGeo HD than Tv1/2...

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#217905 26-May-2009 08:12

JaBZ: I'd much rather have Discovery and NatGeo HD than Tv1/2...

Definetly agree with that.

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#217990 26-May-2009 13:25

Sky have just updated their network table to include HD streams for TV One and TV 2.

Their updated HD lineup is

12331H 22500 DVB-S2
* SID 1161 - Sky Sport 1 HD
* SID 1162 - Sky Sport 2 HD
* SID 1163 - Sky Movies HD

12358H 22500 DVB-S2
* SID 1164 - SM Greats HD
* SID 1165 - TV 3 HD
* SID 1171 - TV One HD
* SID 1172 - TV 2 HD

So it looks like they have decided to squeeze an additional channel into 12358, so I'll be very interested to hear on video quality reports from this update.

I can't confirm if any services are being broadcast as I don't personally have Sky.

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