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Nikoftime

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#411580 1-Dec-2010 12:17

I'm surprised that noone has mentioned the fact that those ppl that can view HD content already pay an additional premium for HD content... the extra $10/month or will sky make the PPV HD movie available to those of us who have an HDi but donot pay the extra $10/month??

manaia

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#411621 1-Dec-2010 14:20

hairy1: +1. lack of space on the hdi is a pain.... You may find we don't lose any more space as a fair chunk is already reserved. Manaia, do you know whether we are going to lose yet more space?

No, the space allocation on the HDD won't change for HD Push.

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#411624 1-Dec-2010 14:25

Nikoftime: I'm surprised that noone has mentioned the fact that those ppl that can view HD content already pay an additional premium for HD content... the extra $10/month or will sky make the PPV HD movie available to those of us who have an HDi but donot pay the extra $10/month??

I suspect Sky will make it available to people like you in the same way that they make the free to air HD channels available to you.

rugrat

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#411647 1-Dec-2010 15:33

In response to I won't pay extra for HD content the answer is no. At the video store HD is the same price as SD video's to rent, if HD is in stock of course I'll pick that to SD as better product.

I don't watch any PPV's on sky as is as even SD to me is over priced. If apple halved price of ipods I don't believe they sell double more, but if sky/movie studios halved price of PPV then I believe they get way more then twice number people watching so everybody wins.

Also an extra customer watching a PPV does not increase costs as it's already distributed to decoders, where as an extra ipod means another ones got to be made, shipped out, returns on faulty ones etc.

Anyway $8 for a PPV HD or $10 for a night out and movie of the week at Hoyts, hmmm that's a hard choice (for when there's one viewer).

HD should be the standard now, not premium product. With true competition the sale price should equate to the cost of item, as if someone makes excess profit the theory is another supplier will move in.

In the end though, the movie industry is not a true competitive environment, which is probably way people do things other ways and the studio's cry foul.

Products to start to complete with the iphone though slow to emerge, are coming out now. I think android may be even over taking it.

Ignite

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#411828 1-Dec-2010 22:42

In the Sky Watch magazine it says the movies will be full HD, but I didn't think mySky would do full HD, just 1080i?

ockel

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#411902 2-Dec-2010 08:25

rugrat: HD should be the standard now, not premium product. With true competition the sale price should equate to the cost of item, as if someone makes excess profit the theory is another supplier will move in.

Lets just check a few major markets around the world...... HDTV penetration c30-40% depending on the market. In NZ its estimated at ~30%. So we're in the mass market adoption. Its clearly not standard.
Blu-ray players? How many households have these? Even less - so thats not suggesting standard product either.

I think that Tivo offers PPV movies (SD at $6.95?). Nothing stopping them from offering HD. Thats called competition. Apple offers SD and HD via itunes. Shock horror that the HD movies are more expensive than the SD movies. I guess that makes Apple a competitor. So there are multiple suppliers in the market place. You've already highlighted that in renting a movie at the video store there is no difference in price - sounds like a competitor to the other offerings in the marketplace.

I'm curious as to sale price = cost. Essentially you're saying no profit? Or a reasonable profit? Who judges this? As a business owner how much do you think is a reasonable profit to earn for you to stay in business rather than stick the money in the bank? What is an excess profit in your opinion?

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#411906 2-Dec-2010 08:33

The last excuse that TiVo gave for not doing HD movies was that NZs broadband was too slow. Hello Tivo. Most people download during the day then watch..

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#411912 2-Dec-2010 08:48

old3eyes: The last excuse that TiVo gave for not doing HD movies was that NZs broadband was too slow. Hello Tivo. Most people download during the day then watch..

As Apple offer HD content then Tivo's decision must be a business decision - after all HD is considered by some as "standard". Damn Sky for offering a product that Tivo wont! If we could all just stay offering SD and be competitive at it. Please no more innovation in the marketplace - its just not fair on us consumers.

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mattbush

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#411915 2-Dec-2010 08:48

This is so typical Sky...simple price gouging!!!!

Yes we pay extra per month for HD content and for the HD decoder....and then they charge extra for an HD movie...should be reported to Commerce Commisssion.

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#411916 2-Dec-2010 08:57

mattbush: This is so typical Sky...simple price gouging!!!!

Yes we pay extra per month for HD content and for the HD decoder....and then they charge extra for an HD movie...should be reported to Commerce Commisssion.

I think that the price you pay for the PVR is the same regardless of whether you take HD or not.

And for those that want to watch a HD movie rather than pay for the movie package (HD or not) - now they can. If you'd prefer that they just offer SD movies at the SD price then I'm sure they'd oblige. Of course they'll get criticised for not offering the PPV movies in HD.......

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#411919 2-Dec-2010 09:02

mattbush: This is so typical Sky...simple price gouging!!!!

Yes we pay extra per month for HD content and for the HD decoder....and then they charge extra for an HD movie...should be reported to Commerce Commisssion.

Here you go then http://www.comcom.govt.nz/online-complaint-form/
But I'm sure they will say, if you don't like it - don't subscribe.

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rugrat

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#412001 2-Dec-2010 10:34

mattbush: This is so typical Sky...simple price gouging!!!!

Yes we pay extra per month for HD content and for the HD decoder....and then they charge extra for an HD movie...should be reported to Commerce Commisssion.

Nah, Just don't buy it. Around $5 at video store and 1080p, available earlier.

My view is just sky would make more money at lower price, at end of day they have right to charge any price they like, if someone thinks over priced just don't buy it.

Maybe it's the way studio's charge them so out of skys hands.

When wide screen was low market penetration it wasn't sold as premium product. Now and then TV3 has HD movie for free.

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