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#2277071 15-Jul-2019 15:45

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More storage space. How is Sky going to make the HDD bigger?

I do recall some space is reserved for PPV movies or something. Possibly that as they wont sell many of those in a Netflix type world

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#2277074 15-Jul-2019 15:48

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More storage space. How is Sky going to make the HDD bigger?

That's easy. Half the drive is taken up with pay per view movies. They just need to remove those/ have less stored, making more space available.

When someone buys a pay per view they can download it from the internet rather then having it already there in anticipation of a purchase.

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#2277201 15-Jul-2019 17:28

Rikkitic:

On the basis of what the Arts Channel was like when I last saw it, and what other services like Netflix and Neon charge, probably around $7-8 a month, more if they improve the offerings. What I remember about Arts was that there was a lot of filler content and repeats, interspersed by gems of real value. I would be paying just to see the gems but if the content warranted it, I might be prepared to go higher. The closest comparison to the Arts Channel would be Medici, which costs US$13 a month. Most, if not all, of their content is 'premium' but their range is narrower as they focus only on music (classical and opera), whereas the Arts channel has much broader coverage. But a lot of it is far from premium and can be found for free on YouTube and other public sources.

I am with you on this but considering all the repeats I would go for $5/mth, yeh it won't happen

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#2277207 15-Jul-2019 17:47

@tdgeek , @rugrat

Thank you for the explanation. I had no idea all that stuff was already on the SkyBox.

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#2277210 15-Jul-2019 17:53

Given Spark's dynamic advertising for their upcoming RWC service, Sky look even more antiquated than ever, if at all possible (of course Spark need to deliver on the promise).

It's almost beyond belief that Sky still can't offer any new tangible service or product to give them any chance of survival. I'm not sure if this is arrogance, misplaced complacency or just plain incompetence (probably a mix of all three I'm picking).

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#2277536 16-Jul-2019 07:13

kiwifidget:

More storage space. How is Sky going to make the HDD bigger?

By changing the storage allocations used for all the PPV movies which are all stored locally.

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#2277539 16-Jul-2019 07:18

dafman: Given Spark's dynamic advertising for their upcoming RWC service, Sky look even more antiquated than ever, if at all possible (of course Spark need to deliver on the promise). It's almost beyond belief that Sky still can't offer any new tangible service or product to give them any chance of survival. I'm not sure if this is arrogance, misplaced complacency or just plain incompetence (probably a mix of all three I'm picking).

I see it as a very smart move.

The Puck was a Fellet era product developed by the same people and midset that has delivered Sky's other online products that all suffer from fundamental issues in one form or another.

Effectively shelving the product to work on a strategy where products are far better aligned seems to be a far superior approach to me than launching a product that like every other Sky product sits in it's own little ecosystem.

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#2277542 16-Jul-2019 07:29

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dafman: Given Spark's dynamic advertising for their upcoming RWC service, Sky look even more antiquated than ever, if at all possible (of course Spark need to deliver on the promise). It's almost beyond belief that Sky still can't offer any new tangible service or product to give them any chance of survival. I'm not sure if this is arrogance, misplaced complacency or just plain incompetence (probably a mix of all three I'm picking).

I see it as a very smart move.

The Puck was a Fellet era product developed by the same people and midset that has delivered Sky's other online products that all suffer from fundamental issues in one form or another.

Effectively shelving the product to work on a strategy where products are far better aligned seems to be a far superior approach to me than launching a product that like every other Sky product sits in it's own little ecosystem.

Absolutely. You can use a MySky or you can use a puck to get internet based Sky. Why use a puck for that? If I had to use a puck for each SVOD I have, I'd buy a bookcase for them all. Hopefully the full Sky app will be well featured, a little cheaper, and we can fiddle with our options to reduce costs a little more

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#2277544 16-Jul-2019 07:40

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2277551 16-Jul-2019 07:50

MikeB4:

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Very true. My all-in-one "puck" is my Apple TV 4. It has all NZ apps, every one, on it. As well as all the others that people use. That will last a lot longer as it will get updates too. If one day it doesnt, its cheap. Has a remote too. Its a great solution

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#2277554 16-Jul-2019 08:06

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MikeB4:

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Very true. My all-in-one "puck" is my Apple TV 4. It has all NZ apps, every one, on it. As well as all the others that people use. That will last a lot longer as it will get updates too. If one day it doesnt, its cheap. Has a remote too. Its a great solution

Apple TV is OK, I have two but they have the worst remote control ever. The Original Apple TV remote was way better. I am also not convinced on the UI.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2277555 16-Jul-2019 08:09

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A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Not ideal but there’s Chromecast as a fallback if TV goes obsolete for app purposes.

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#2277557 16-Jul-2019 08:13

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MikeB4:

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Not ideal but there’s Chromecast as a fallback if TV goes obsolete for app purposes.

Agreed, we have a Chromecast mainly for it to interact with the Google Home. I believe TV makers should be offering non smart TVs with up to date screens etc for those who don't want a redundant expensive box in a few years.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2277558 16-Jul-2019 08:18

MikeB4:

tdgeek:

MikeB4:

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Very true. My all-in-one "puck" is my Apple TV 4. It has all NZ apps, every one, on it. As well as all the others that people use. That will last a lot longer as it will get updates too. If one day it doesnt, its cheap. Has a remote too. Its a great solution

Apple TV is OK, I have two but they have the worst remote control ever. The Original Apple TV remote was way better. I am also not convinced on the UI.

Ok, I find the remote good. The UI is pretty simple, its really just an app displayer

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#2277560 16-Jul-2019 08:27

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MikeB4:

A down side of Apps v Pucks/set top box is Apps and by association your TV become obsolete very quickly. Your nice shiny new smart TV is a dud with non updated Apps in just a few years.

Not ideal but there’s Chromecast as a fallback if TV goes obsolete for app purposes.

Agreed, we have a Chromecast mainly for it to interact with the Google Home. I believe TV makers should be offering non smart TVs with up to date screens etc for those who don't want a redundant expensive box in a few years.

Ha - that would ruin their little plan to get you to keep regularly replacing your TV - so not likely I’m afraid.

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