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Scott3
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  #2971817 22-Sep-2022 18:20
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halper86:

 

VTV was no strings attached, this 'Sky Pod' has strings attached. I loved how you could pay a month to month sub for Sky instead of being locked into a contract for a year. When lockdown rolled around, FTA had nothing interesting, streaming apps got boring after a while and got sick of ads on YT. The joys of VTV was you could skip the ads and record to the cloud for FREE, now Sky wants to charge $15/m for the privilege.

 

Sorry Sky, but its a no from me. I won't be the only one!

 

 

Regarding Vodafone TV, my take on the situation:

 

Majority of customer's are using it for Free to Air. Large numbers of Kiwibuild style New build housing has been built without TV antenna's / satellite dishes. And the sales people are quite versed with telling people to just get Vodafone TV as it is cheaper than an aerial install.

 

Objectively it is a sweet service. Relatively cheap unit, and all the hard work being done in the cloud by vodafone for free :). Issue is it costs Vodafone money to run that cloud service, and they don't make any money back from it. Easy to see how they are keen to shut the service down.

 

That said Vodafone & Sky do make money off the minority of VTV customers who pay for the sky upgrade. Hence VTV has been kept alive until an alternative service can be stood up to retain these people. This is sky pod.

 

Sky doesn't seem to have any interest in taking on the Free to Air VTV users. This does seem to be a bit of a missed opportunity. Perhaps they could have done a Sky Pod Basic offering for say $5 a month, which would cover the cost of the cloud side of providing free to air, while keeping these users as sky customers, so they can market up sells to them.

 

But as it stands at the moment. VTV free to air users will need to pony up for a setup to get their TV some other way when the service ends.

 

 




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  #2971818 22-Sep-2022 18:21
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Ulairi:

 

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That looks to be squared off (i.e. USB-A for power like Chromecasts etc) rather than the HDMI shape?

 

 

 

 

Might just be the render.

 

 

 

I also think that's the HDMI, and it will be powered via the USB-C port


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  #2971859 22-Sep-2022 21:03
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I am super keen on this new box but sadly see a few issues with it:

 

- No announcements on more HD channels
- No news on when 4K Sky will be available
- Apparently the interface is laggy according to a Reddit post on /r/nz

 

Really it just seems like a new box with all the potential switched off. I don't know many people that would consider a Netflix app on the box much of a feature. Everyone has already sussed a way to watch Netflix.

 

If Sky announced that the Premier League would be shown in 4K I would subscribe immediately. 

 

Maybe they need to wait until the new satellite is up in late-2023 https://www.sky.co.nz/-/mk_pressrelease_0207 - I hope not.




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  #2971865 22-Sep-2022 21:50
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So if the content streams quality are unchanged, I think I'll stay with by old mysky.

If I wanted a new general purpose streaming box because my smart TV is aging would pay for the latest apple tv box for ease of family use.

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  #2971882 23-Sep-2022 03:28
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As I keep stating, Sky have no 4K playout capability. 4K sport playout will start when outside broadcast trucks complete upgrade in 2025. Sky are run by accountants so actions totally predictable as based on bean counting. Box rollout itself will take years and they don't stream 4K to a small number of customers. Aim with these boxes is to replace all the old mySky HD/HD+ boxes, several hundred thousand at least, switch satellites, upgrade trucks, upgrade playout equipment and then start 4K playout.





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  #2971925 23-Sep-2022 07:32
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Spyware:

 

As I keep stating, Sky have no 4K playout capability. 4K sport playout will start when outside broadcast trucks complete upgrade in 2025. Sky are run by accountants so actions totally predictable as based on bean counting. Box rollout itself will take years and they don't stream 4K to a small number of customers. Aim with these boxes is to replace all the old mySky HD/HD+ boxes, several hundred thousand at least, switch satellites, upgrade trucks, upgrade playout equipment and then start 4K playout.

 

 

They (SKY), sold off OSB about 2 years ago?  (no more outside broadcast trucks....sold to that American or Canadian company whose name I cant recall). 


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  #2971935 23-Sep-2022 08:06
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Goosey:

 

Spyware:

 

As I keep stating, Sky have no 4K playout capability. 4K sport playout will start when outside broadcast trucks complete upgrade in 2025. Sky are run by accountants so actions totally predictable as based on bean counting. Box rollout itself will take years and they don't stream 4K to a small number of customers. Aim with these boxes is to replace all the old mySky HD/HD+ boxes, several hundred thousand at least, switch satellites, upgrade trucks, upgrade playout equipment and then start 4K playout.

 

 

They (SKY), sold off OSB about 2 years ago?  (no more outside broadcast trucks....sold to that American or Canadian company whose name I cant recall). 

 

 

 

 

https://www.sky.co.nz/-/mk_pressrelease_120820


 
 
 

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  #2971938 23-Sep-2022 08:11
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Common knowledge that Sky sold trucks as couldn't afford the upgrade themselves, part of deal was for upgrade to 4K by 2025, estimated cost of $50M. I'm not re reading old info.





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  #2971973 23-Sep-2022 09:13
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I have to say - I was a bit disappointed to see in my email that I'd have to pay $200 for the privilege of paying Sky over $100 a month to view their content via a new box. 

 

Sure there's some improvements and feature additions, but I have an Apple TV - I don't need a new box - it's a nice to have. I don't have a 4K TV and they don't broadcast in 4K anyway. 

 

It feels like there's a whole lot of of "not quite reading the room" here by Sky. 

 

 

 

Maybe I'm in the minority and most Sky (MySky+ in my case) customers will be happy to shell out $200 for a box and then continue to pay through the nose for the service, but personally, this is starting to push me away. After 20+ years I think it's time. 





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  #2972024 23-Sep-2022 10:49
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I also got the same email, what wasn’t mentioned I’d the option to pay it off by $10 a month

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  #2972039 23-Sep-2022 11:06
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I think most are missing the point that nobody is saying you have to upgrade or pay money for the fact. If you are happy with sky/mysky then you keep your current STB and all is well. I can't see any benefit for me in having the new box when I have a 4K apple tv and nothing from the new sky box will look any better than what it does on my current setup.





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  #2972043 23-Sep-2022 11:18
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JPNZ:

 

I think most are missing the point that nobody is saying you have to upgrade or pay money for the fact. If you are happy with sky/mysky then you keep your current STB and all is well. I can't see any benefit for me in having the new box when I have a 4K apple tv and nothing from the new sky box will look any better than what it does on my current setup.

 

 

 

 

Yes, I don't think the intention is for everyone to upgrade, most will just keep their existing box.

 

This is to position them for the future, as the current box is getting outdated and they obviously need something new going forward.

 

They have more than 500,000 Sky box customers, so it's easy to see how they wouldn't actually want everyone to upgrade at this stage, especially with current supply constraints. Also, it's easy to see why they can't simply upgrade half a million people for free, as the cost would be prohibitive especially at a time when they're just beginning to turn the company around.


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  #2972044 23-Sep-2022 11:26
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JPNZ: I think most are missing the point that nobody is saying you have to upgrade or pay money for the fact. If you are happy with sky/mysky then you keep your current STB and all is well... 

 

A lot of us get Sky through Vodafone TV - we DO have to upgrade (if we want to keep getting Sky).


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  #2972047 23-Sep-2022 11:30
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JPNZ:

 

I think most are missing the point that nobody is saying you have to upgrade or pay money for the fact. If you are happy with sky/mysky then you keep your current STB and all is well. I can't see any benefit for me in having the new box when I have a 4K apple tv and nothing from the new sky box will look any better than what it does on my current setup.

 

 

I didn't miss that point at all, but I still think it's on the nose that they are expecting long-term customers to fork out yet again to get the latest box, if they want the featuires, so that they can continue to pay a substantial sum to watch Sky TV. 

 

There are a lot of alternatives and to be honest, I'm very close to calling it a day on Sky. 





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  #2972111 23-Sep-2022 12:11
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Handsomedan:

 

.... I'm very close to calling it a day on Sky. 

 

 

You should. I called it a day on Sky Satellite ~3yrs ago and have never looked back. At first I was very disappointed being left with SSN for streaming sports. However once I did my research and found alternative streaming providers (which can only be discussed in the Unblocking Services private forum) it opened my world completely.  On that topic I'd expect a bit more traffic over in that forum now as people look to explore alternatives.


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