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#3273642 20-Aug-2024 05:40

The measat3a satellite was moved to the 160E position a few months ago, its in use already and most of the Australian traffic has moved over to it. However the footprint from it isn't really ideal for NZ only converage as the fixed ku band beams were designed to cover Indonesia or Malaysia.

http://www.measat.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/M3a_temp.pdf

If they manage to configure usage for Sky NZ there are other issues. For starters the LNBF skew is way out compared to Optus so would still require a tech visit to adjust it.

Optus D3 at 156E was always supppose to be the backup for SKY NZ hence many installs of those twin head lnbfs.

Then of course there are all those Freeview installs as well. Perhaps 2024 we will finally see a deal with Freeview for Sky to turn off encryptions on 1,2,3 ETC..

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#3273891 20-Aug-2024 14:13

Apsattv:

The measat3a satellite was moved to the 160E position a few months ago, its in use already and most of the Australian traffic has moved over to it. However the footprint from it isn't really ideal for NZ only converage as the fixed ku band beams were designed to cover Indonesia or Malaysia.

http://www.measat.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/M3a_temp.pdf

If they manage to configure usage for Sky NZ there are other issues. For starters the LNBF skew is way out compared to Optus so would still require a tech visit to adjust it.

Optus D3 at 156E was always supppose to be the backup for SKY NZ hence many installs of those twin head lnbfs.

Then of course there are all those Freeview installs as well. Perhaps 2024 we will finally see a deal with Freeview for Sky to turn off encryptions on 1,2,3 ETC..

Does Optus D3/10 have enough space for Sky NZ?

Interesting that it is suggested that Optus have two options for Sky.

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#3273894 20-Aug-2024 14:48

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#3273941 20-Aug-2024 16:44

D3 has 8 transponders that can do the NZ beam as its similar to the original D1. One NZ beam transponder is already linked to the NZ sky box. The sky box will look there by default if the box loses signal. As part of the bootup process.

The NZ beam is also used for various Sky related sports feeds

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#3283466 18-Sep-2024 11:18

This just in:

Sky will run a 4K Ultra High Definition test during the broadcast of the All Blacks v Australia match on Saturday 28 September, 6pm.

All Sky Sport customers with the new Sky Box will also be able to watch the match in 4K-UHD on a temporary pop-up channel, Sky Sport 1 UHD (channel 251).

So satellite only - not streaming (eliminates the Pod, Sky Go, & Sky Sport now). Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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#3283469 18-Sep-2024 11:35

evnafets:

All Sky Sport customers with the new Sky Box will also be able to watch the match in 4K-UHD on a temporary pop-up channel, Sky Sport 1 UHD (channel 251).

That's quite cool. Shame I don't have the new box. I should probably go and look into the new Sky box and see if it's finally better overall?

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#3283471 18-Sep-2024 11:43

Hope we eventually see 4K for Sky Sports Now. I don't need the rest of the Sky curated content but I do need Sports and having watched the F1 and EPL recently, you can see the upscaling on the 4k TV but the quality is good on my 1080p laptop... Now F1TV Pro uses a higher bitrate which helps the upscaling on the TV but native UHD would be much better!

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#3283472 18-Sep-2024 11:43

IMHO it would only be worth it if Sky provides it at a good enough bitrate -- but given what they've done in the past with their existing services it's more likely they'll just make the bitrate so low you it looks awful despite the higher resolution. I've seen 1080i broadcasts from SKY looking worse than high bitrate 720p on other services.

But 99% of the general population think the resolution is the sole determiner of pix quality and don't care about bitrate -- and SKY is exploiting that easily. People will just see 'UHD' in the corner and think they have the best quality. SMH.

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#3283486 18-Sep-2024 12:15

Tempting... But for a one off at this stage I'll stick to my HDi box.

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#3283600 18-Sep-2024 16:03

The Bitrate from SKY Sport UHD 1 when testing over the past few months has been 25mbits. But havn't looked at it for a few weeks.

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#3283750 18-Sep-2024 23:55

Apsattv:

The Bitrate from SKY Sport UHD 1 when testing over the past few months has been 25mbits. But havn't looked at it for a few weeks.

I do not subscribe to Sky Sports, so I can not actually view Sky Sport 1 UHD. But when I ran my TS Analyzer program on the stream, it reported as HEVC video at 115 Mbit/s. Sky Sport Pop-up 3 channel on the same transponder is reported as H.264 at 44 Mbit/s.

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#3283805 19-Sep-2024 09:24

Sky TV NZ - bringing you technology from the last decade at prices from the next decade.

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#3283968 19-Sep-2024 10:30

Caketiger:

Sky TV NZ - bringing you technology from the last decade at prices from the next decade.

Sky's prices are a reflection of their costs. They aren't making outrageous profits by any stretch.

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#3283973 19-Sep-2024 10:47

networkn:

Sky's prices are a reflection of their costs. They aren't making outrageous profits by any stretch.

Then to me it says they should be cutting costs.

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#3283978 19-Sep-2024 11:03

richms:

Then to me it says they should be cutting costs.

I believe they will be able to make some large cost savings when the next rugby rights are up for renewal with NZR, they last paid around $500 million for 5 years in 2019 when currently they are probably only worth half to 2/3rds of that price given rugbys decline in NZ.

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