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# 132232 14-Oct-2013 11:27
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The Uk sky has fancy wifi 2TB my sky boxes....

http://www.sky.com/products/kit/sky-plus-hd-2tb-box/

Is New Zealand going to get better boxes with Internet capabilities/Wifi one day soon?








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  # 914691 14-Oct-2013 11:32
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If you really wanted to, you could probably upgrade the HDD yourself. Though of course in doing so you'd be breaking Sky's TOS.

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  # 914695 14-Oct-2013 11:37
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you can get a 1TB one now, but it will cost you an extra $5 per month.

Shame VF decided to go with a measly 300GB for their new service rather than 1-2TB. that would have been an opportunity to differentiate from current MySky

 
 
 
 


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  # 914696 14-Oct-2013 11:37
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AidanS: If you really wanted to, you could probably upgrade the HDD yourself. Though of course in doing so you'd be breaking Sky's TOS.

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This is not permitted. You do not own the Sky units. Sky would be justified in charging you the cost of a replacement unit.





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  # 914699 14-Oct-2013 11:40
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KiwiNZ: 

This is not permitted. You do not own the Sky units. Sky would be justified in charging you the cost of a replacement unit.



Of course it's not permitted. But if you knew what you were doing you could put in a 2TB HDD while you're using it, then before you send it back (for whatever reason), swap the default HDD back in. I don't recommend doing this at all but if you desperately needed more storage it would be "a way".

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  # 914716 14-Oct-2013 11:59
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NonprayingMantis: you can get a 1TB one now, but it will cost you an extra $5 per month.

Shame VF decided to go with a measly 300GB for their new service rather than 1-2TB. that would have been an opportunity to differentiate from current MySky


I want fancy wifi boxes though lol either that or get a wifi smart tv I suppose.




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  # 914719 14-Oct-2013 12:02
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I want a service like Verizon offer over in the States with their FIOS system. That would be amazing. (Sorry about off-topic).

[http://www.verizon.com/home/aboutfios/]

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  # 914721 14-Oct-2013 12:03
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AidanS:
KiwiNZ: 

This is not permitted. You do not own the Sky units. Sky would be justified in charging you the cost of a replacement unit.



Of course it's not permitted. But if you knew what you were doing you could put in a 2TB HDD while you're using it, then before you send it back (for whatever reason), swap the default HDD back in. I don't recommend doing this at all but if you desperately needed more storage it would be "a way".

-Aidan.


Wouldn't there be some proprietary software / operating system on the existing drive?
How would you transfer that to the replacement?

 
 
 
 


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  # 914722 14-Oct-2013 12:08
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CYaBro:
AidanS:
KiwiNZ: 

This is not permitted. You do not own the Sky units. Sky would be justified in charging you the cost of a replacement unit.



Of course it's not permitted. But if you knew what you were doing you could put in a 2TB HDD while you're using it, then before you send it back (for whatever reason), swap the default HDD back in. I don't recommend doing this at all but if you desperately needed more storage it would be "a way".

-Aidan.


Wouldn't there be some proprietary software / operating system on the existing drive?
How would you transfer that to the replacement?


You're correct. However this can be solved. Read here if you're interested.

Again, I'm not saying you should do it, I'm just pointing out that it's physically possible (if you're desperate and prepared to take a risk).

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  # 914846 14-Oct-2013 14:57
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AidanS:
CYaBro:
AidanS:
KiwiNZ: 

This is not permitted. You do not own the Sky units. Sky would be justified in charging you the cost of a replacement unit.



Of course it's not permitted. But if you knew what you were doing you could put in a 2TB HDD while you're using it, then before you send it back (for whatever reason), swap the default HDD back in. I don't recommend doing this at all but if you desperately needed more storage it would be "a way".

-Aidan.


Wouldn't there be some proprietary software / operating system on the existing drive?
How would you transfer that to the replacement?


You're correct. However this can be solved. Read here if you're interested.

Again, I'm not saying you should do it, I'm just pointing out that it's physically possible (if you're desperate and prepared to take a risk).

-Aidan.


I wouldn't advise it, partly because of the reasons given above, but also because I think that the partition sizes are defined in software so you would be wasting your money on the bigger drive.

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  # 914848 14-Oct-2013 15:08
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There was a press release by Sky back in February.

This stated that the mysky boxes would get updated software and allow internet connectivity.

From the article it looks like the current boxes will be around for sometime yet as Sky only want to roll out a new box with 4K capability....

http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/isky-onboard-sky-tv-boss-details-major-my-sky-upgrade-CK

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  # 914849 14-Oct-2013 15:10
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The internet isky upgrade is due to occur about Feb (12 months from the article)




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  # 914854 14-Oct-2013 15:21
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i wonder if the eSata port can be enable to allow a external HDD, can't see them doing it but would be an easy option for the consumer

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  # 914858 14-Oct-2013 15:33
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Wade: i wonder if the eSata port can be enable to allow a external HDD, can't see them doing it but would be an easy option for the consumer


It could be but you have to remember all these things aren't actually legal.

Format shifting of video isn't legal in NZ, and a DVR/HDD recorder can legally only be used to record content for playback "ASAP". The law doesn't allow long term archiving of content. Content management rights imposed by rights holders also limit how content can be copied off devices.

I know these laws are stupid, but they are the laws.. There is also some irony in that many of the things US rights holders impose on others can be done in their own country.



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  # 915684 15-Oct-2013 19:57
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hairy1: The internet isky upgrade is due to occur about Feb (12 months from the article)


So Feb 2014 then...not too far away...

I like the idea of isky via the  myskyhd device ( we currently do have our tv hooked up to one computer so we can stream tv on demand to the big screen) only wired with VGA cable right now - as our TV is not supper dooper fancy.

I am also looking forward to the ultra device when it comes out too.  And I guess if they are doing the research to make sure the new ultra box can perform with other technologies then I do not mind waiting.

In this technological age, we should be able to do and watch everything from the comfort of our couches these days without having to hook extra things up and have cables here there and everywhere.






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  # 915695 15-Oct-2013 20:14
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sbiddle:
Wade: i wonder if the eSata port can be enable to allow a external HDD, can't see them doing it but would be an easy option for the consumer


It could be but you have to remember all these things aren't actually legal.

Format shifting of video isn't legal in NZ, and a DVR/HDD recorder can legally only be used to record content for playback "ASAP". The law doesn't allow long term archiving of content. Content management rights imposed by rights holders also limit how content can be copied off devices.

I know these laws are stupid, but they are the laws.. There is also some irony in that many of the things US rights holders impose on others can be done in their own country.


Ummm... it would be perfectly legal for Sky to enable an external drive to be connected via the eSATA port to provide more space. It was legal for Tivo to have that option, and it would be legal for Sky as well - conceptually no different to shipping a STB with a larger drive. They could tie the drive to the STB using encryption if they wanted to stop people using it to move content off the box, but there is no law that says they have to.

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