can't get subtitles on SkyTV?! :(

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Lykho

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#133509 24-Oct-2013 13:52

ok, so I got a new remote so I could access subtitles, and I followed the instructions (which seemed a little off -- apparently I just push the left/right buttons during a show to get subtitles, but I have to put the "+" to even get that audio/subtitle menu which those arrow buttons respond to.

nevertheless, once I get that menu, and I can choose 'english/Italian' for audio on some shows, or 'English/none' for subtitles on some shows, the audio doesn't change and nor do subtitles appear.

is it anything to do with the TV (it's not a flatscreen or anything), or am I just doing something wrong?

I've also tried using teletext but can't figure out how to do that through Sky.

my foreign flatmates would really appreciate if we could get this figured out.

Behodar

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#921007 24-Oct-2013 14:04

I believe that Teletext is gone now so you won't have any luck with that. As for how to get to the "modern" subtitles, I'll have to leave that for someone more experienced.

Edit: Teletext subtitles still exist; see below.

B1GGLZ

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#921008 24-Oct-2013 14:05

Teletext doesn't exist any more. It was closed down a couple of months ago.
Closed captions doesn't work on all Sky boxes. I believe it doesn't work on the Basic boxes like the small silver Pace box I have. Never tried so can't confirm.

Lykho

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#921010 24-Oct-2013 14:08

B1GGLZ: Teletext doesn't exist any more. It was closed down a couple of months ago.
Closed captions doesn't work on all Sky boxes. I believe it doesn't work on the Basic boxes like the small silver Pace box I have. Never tried so can't confirm.

bugger, then I guess a follow up question will be 'how much will we have to spend to get one capable of subtitles?'

B1GGLZ

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#921067 24-Oct-2013 15:31

Lykho:

bugger, then I guess a follow up question will be 'how much will we have to spend to get one capable of subtitles?'

I think you need MySky or MySky+.
I seem to remember reading about captions on their website but it was very hard to find the info.

P.S.
Found it here but it's out of date because of the demise of teletext.
http://www.skytv.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=1617

JarrodM

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#921075 24-Oct-2013 15:55

it says on teletext you can still get subtitles on analogue and sky digital by going to page 801. just tested and I couldn't get it to work.

edit: it is working now

Behodar

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#921079 24-Oct-2013 16:04

JarrodM: it says on teletext you can still get subtitles

Now that you mention it, I remember that now. Sorry about the misinformation above.

B1GGLZ

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#921098 24-Oct-2013 17:06

Behodar:
JarrodM: it says on teletext you can still get subtitles

Now that you mention it, I remember that now. Sorry about the misinformation above.

Oh yeah. I think I remember them saying that was the only thing left working too.
Still, only works with rf connection on the basic boxes so would be a rubbish picture anyway. I use component out. I guess it will disappear when analogue disappears in Dec.

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Lykho

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#921342 25-Oct-2013 02:50

B1GGLZ: I use component out.

I think ours does, too.
so there's no way to access teletext through Sky set up that way? and there's no other captions except on MySky?

manaia

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#921641 25-Oct-2013 13:21

As people have said, teletext subtitles are still there. How you see them depends on your decoder. If you have a legacy STB (SD, non-MySKY) with analogue outputs then the teletext pages holding the subtitles are passed straight through with the video and you will need a teletext-capable TV to turn them on and view them. The MySKY HDi's main output, HDMI, can't carry the teletext component so the MySKY has to decode the subtitles internally and add them into the picture, and you turn them on in the decoder, not the TV. The SKY FAQ posted above is accurate and still relevant as SKY haven't dropped subtitles on those services. Many people don't realise that subtitles are not only used by hearing-impaired people (of whom there are many more than we think) but also by people whose English skills aren't up to understanding TV dialogue.

Unfortunately though, if you're using component out and don't have a MySKY, yes, you're a bit stuffed. I think that component is a bit over-rated. I would knock it back to S-video as I don't think there is a visible difference in quality and you should get subtitles on that.

Lykho

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#921666 25-Oct-2013 14:11

manaia: I think that component is a bit over-rated. I would knock it back to S-video as I don't think there is a visible difference in quality and you should get subtitles on that.

thanks for the info.
is there a tutorial on how to do that? do I need any different cords or is it just a different setting?

B1GGLZ

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#921679 25-Oct-2013 14:40

manaia:
Unfortunately though, if you're using component out and don't have a MySKY, yes, you're a bit stuffed. I think that component is a bit over-rated. I would knock it back to S-video as I don't think there is a visible difference in quality and you should get subtitles on that.

Very few TV sets have S-video inputs these days. The problem arises when using old sky boxes on new TVs that have HDMI or Component/Composite inputs. Composite A/V could be used instead of component and is supposed to work according to Sky but component gives better picture quality. The only time I ever tried S-Video out from my Sky box all I got was an unwatchable B&W picture. I use the composite A/V out to my Recorder and the component out to the TV. Fortunately I'm not interested in CC.

B1GGLZ

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#921680 25-Oct-2013 14:42

Lykho:
is there a tutorial on how to do that? do I need any different cords or is it just a different setting?

Different cable and sockets.

Lykho

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#921720 25-Oct-2013 15:05

B1GGLZ:
Lykho:
is there a tutorial on how to do that? do I need any different cords or is it just a different setting?

Different cable and sockets.

bugger. would the account holder have those, or are they not normally supplied? and are there pics somewhere of these plugs/etc. (I only know RCA/composite/hdmi stuff)

B1GGLZ

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#921729 25-Oct-2013 15:22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video