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#190689 8-Jan-2016 21:20

So I have been a sky subscriber for 8 years and just pulled the pin.

All I want is sky sport for $30 a month.

sky make you have the basic channel pack for $49~ dollars - dont want it

fanpass.co.nz is $56 a month ~ same price as just having a normal sky sub,

so until sky offer me sky sport over sat or online for $30 a month I will find other ways to watch the games :)

yours sincerely,

another cancelled subscriber.

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#1466237 8-Jan-2016 22:12

Same thing here. Canceled 6 months ago. Would rather watch no sport than pay for 40 channels I don't watch.

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#1466259 8-Jan-2016 22:24

The fanpass service is pretty soild, its a shame its priced poorly at this time.

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#1466265 8-Jan-2016 22:42

I'm interested to know how much sport everyone watches, on average, in a week or month.

And what you think a reasonable price per hour you should be charged compared to the cost of other entertainment you consume?

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#1466279 8-Jan-2016 23:15

I don't think $56 is far off. In my opinion $45 is fair for Sport only.

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#1466324 9-Jan-2016 07:35

Sam91: I don't think $56 is far off. In my opinion $45 is fair for Sport only.

Okay, thats interesting. Why $45/mth for Sport? Why not $30/mth as per the OP? Everyone has a different propensity to pay so everyone is different. But how did you arrive at $45? And why did the OP arrive at $30/mth?

What is your habitual sport watching? Is it a Super 15 match a week? Or 2 or 3? The tennis (topical right now), the F1, A-league, NBA, NBL, Netball, V8's? What sport do you want to watch and are willing to pay for? And how often do you or would you watch it?

Over the summer months my must have is NFL (sure I watch some cricket, some tennis etc but I wouldnt miss them if I didnt have sport). I will watch 3 games a week or 9 hours a week. For this I need Basic+Sport+HD+MySky at ~$110/mth or $25/week. So my viewing habit is about $2.75/hour. Its how I justify my purchase. I dont take into account any other Sky I watch in this calculation.

I could get NFL Gamepass for the post season (11 games) for about NZD110 or $10/game. So my streaming option for a 3hr game is ~$3.33/game ( a premium to the regular season but its playoffs so pricing is higher in the postseason). So an individual sport will charge me more than I'm currently paying. If you're a sport nut and want more sports then the a la carte can start getting expensive. But we'll keep it simple.

So how do you get to your $45/mth?

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#1466331 9-Jan-2016 08:06

Or you could watch NFL for free on tvnz pop up and save yourself $2.75 per hour.

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#1466333 9-Jan-2016 08:12

hairy1: Or you could watch NFL for free on tvnz pop up and save yourself $2.75 per hour.

True but only 2 of the 4 games this weekend will be shown. And its not in HD. I've supplemented my watching with additional NFL content over the last few months thanks to TVNZ. But my numbers dont take into account the extra hours I've watched thanks to the advertising community and taxpayers giving me extra content.

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#1466335 9-Jan-2016 08:18

You reckon that TVNZ will show Super Bowl this year??

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#1466336 9-Jan-2016 08:21

old3eyes: You reckon that TVNZ will show Super Bowl this year??

Yes, they have already confirmed that they will be showing it - and on TVOne no less.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/tvnz-sales/news/tvnz-to-screen-super-bowl-50-live-on-tv-one.html

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#1466341 9-Jan-2016 08:33

ockel:
Sam91: I don't think $56 is far off. In my opinion $45 is fair for Sport only.

Okay, thats interesting. Why $45/mth for Sport? Why not $30/mth as per the OP? Everyone has a different propensity to pay so everyone is different. But how did you arrive at $45? And why did the OP arrive at $30/mth?

What is your habitual sport watching? Is it a Super 15 match a week? Or 2 or 3? The tennis (topical right now), the F1, A-league, NBA, NBL, Netball, V8's? What sport do you want to watch and are willing to pay for? And how often do you or would you watch it?

Over the summer months my must have is NFL (sure I watch some cricket, some tennis etc but I wouldnt miss them if I didnt have sport). I will watch 3 games a week or 9 hours a week. For this I need Basic+Sport+HD+MySky at ~$110/mth or $25/week. So my viewing habit is about $2.75/hour. Its how I justify my purchase. I dont take into account any other Sky I watch in this calculation.

I could get NFL Gamepass for the post season (11 games) for about NZD110 or $10/game. So my streaming option for a 3hr game is ~$3.33/game ( a premium to the regular season but its playoffs so pricing is higher in the postseason). So an individual sport will charge me more than I'm currently paying. If you're a sport nut and want more sports then the a la carte can start getting expensive. But we'll keep it simple.

So how do you get to your $45/mth?

Everyone wants everything for nothing these days. Or in this case, a price that suits the OP. But the price we pay is what suits Sky. Now if Sky was a cash cow, making money hand over fist thats one thing, but if you look at the financial results, their earnings for assets employed is in the normal range. And if you replace Sky sports with your other individual pay subscriptions, it may be a small saving (so easier to keep Sky) or a higher cost (so easier to keep Sky) or if you watch only one or two non major sports, you can save good money. The reality is sports cost. Sky spends 60% of its costs (unsure if thats total or content) o sport, so it ain't cheap.

Everyone sees Sky as a monopoly. Rubbish. However, they wanted competition, and thats happened, so you can get Sky, or you can use the fragmentation caused by competition, which may cost more, similar or less. Choice. The bottom lie is there is choice and Sky isn't rorting subscribers. It costs what it costs.

I have Sky, am moving in 3 weeks, I am cancelling. I'll use Fanpass for F1, MotoGP, Tennis. Maybe I will seek a $49 new deal, dunno.

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#1466343 9-Jan-2016 08:36

Okay, lets do another example.

You're a tennis fan. You'll watch the Aussie Open. It runs for 2 weeks (14 days) and you'll watch, for the purposes of the example, 1 match per day (either mens or womens but not both) with an average duration of 2.5 hours (2 hours for womens, 3 hours for mens). Thats about 35 hours of watching assuming you dont watch all of the semi's and both finals (really? you're a fan and paying for watching the tennis, of course you'll watch both. Okay so 40 hours.

You can get it on FanPass for $30. $30 for 40 hours. Doesnt seem too bad. Even $56 for the month for 40 hours seems reasonably priced? If you subscribed purely for it at $90 (being Basic+Sport+HD) it'd be $2.35 per hour.

Do I need to do an example for the cricket? Theres another thread where the poster got FanPass for a month to get 11 cricket games. Thats $5 per match. Expensive, yes? Umm. IMHO, no.

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#1466346 9-Jan-2016 08:47

ockel: Okay, lets do another example.

You're a tennis fan. You'll watch the Aussie Open. It runs for 2 weeks (14 days) and you'll watch, for the purposes of the example, 1 match per day (either mens or womens but not both) with an average duration of 2.5 hours (2 hours for womens, 3 hours for mens). Thats about 35 hours of watching assuming you dont watch all of the semi's and both finals (really? you're a fan and paying for watching the tennis, of course you'll watch both. Okay so 40 hours.

You can get it on FanPass for $30. $30 for 40 hours. Doesnt seem too bad. Even $56 for the month for 40 hours seems reasonably priced? If you subscribed purely for it at $90 (being Basic+Sport+HD) it'd be $2.35 per hour.

Do I need to do an example for the cricket? Theres another thread where the poster got FanPass for a month to get 11 cricket games. Thats $5 per match. Expensive, yes? Umm. IMHO, no.

And, for me, I can watch as much tennis as I could. I watch F1 and MotoGP as well, so if I paid $56 for one month that may well include all 3. Next month, I might just need one week. Next month I might decide just to watch the two races. 2 x one day each. For me, Fanpass for 365 days is saving me 50% and many months I can do that cheaper.
So, its a sound option.

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#1466350 9-Jan-2016 09:20

Fanpass needs to include ESPN and the Sky sport popup channels!

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#1466359 9-Jan-2016 09:49

ockel: I'm interested to know how much sport everyone watches, on average, in a week or month.

And what you think a reasonable price per hour you should be charged compared to the cost of other entertainment you consume?

if im home i watch sport 15 hours a day, turn it on when i get up and turn it off when i go to bed, i can see the tv from my desktop so Sky is always on a sports channel . I have worked it out it would cost me over $1500 a year to pay for everything i watch on Sky Sports if doing it legally .

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1466460 9-Jan-2016 11:16

vexxxboy:
ockel: I'm interested to know how much sport everyone watches, on average, in a week or month.

And what you think a reasonable price per hour you should be charged compared to the cost of other entertainment you consume?

if im home i watch sport 15 hours a day, turn it on when i get up and turn it off when i go to bed, i can see the tv from my desktop so Sky is always on a sports channel . I have worked it out it would cost me over $1500 a year to pay for everything i watch on Sky Sports if doing it legally .

I watch zero sport....all day, every day....for free.

I have so much time for every other thing in my life it's amazing....and costs me nothing at all.

(The other end of the spectrum, I guess). :-)

I've never had Sky because Rupert Murdoch had a big share of it until recently....and I don't give my money, if I can help it, to criminals like him who make billions from creating war and misery for others.

So between finding watching sports dead boring and saving over a $1000 year in a Sky subs AND not giving cash to killers, it was a no-brainer for me, personally.

I'm saying this just because I'm amazed anyone could watch as much sport as you say you do and still be sane. I could be assuming too much there. ;-)

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