MySky to DVD Recorder

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Nesianstyle

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Topic # 223653 10-Oct-2017 19:50

So I've got a couple of sports programs on my Mysky unit that I want to record to a dvd. For the life of me I can't figure out how to set it up so i can put it on to a dvd and then move it to my computer. Any insights please? I've got a Samsung smart TV, Mysky HDI and a Panasonic DMR-EH68 Dvd recorder. What cords need to go where? Thanks

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Reply # 1882042 11-Oct-2017 19:08

I don't think you can without additional hardware. I'm pretty sure Sky Sport uses mcrovision copy protection.

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Reply # 1882099 11-Oct-2017 21:50

I remember doing this. From memory I had my dvd recorder connected to the component/composite outputs on the mysky box. press play on the mysky and record on the dvd recoder at same time. Can't remeber what I copied, I know it worked.

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Reply # 1882190 12-Oct-2017 06:20

dukester:

I remember doing this. From memory I had my dvd recorder connected to the component/composite outputs on the mysky box. press play on the mysky and record on the dvd recoder at same time. Can't remeber what I copied, I know it worked.

We did this on standard sky for the Olympics a few years ago. Seemed to work.

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Reply # 1886249 19-Oct-2017 13:06

Sorry for the delay in responding, I have been offshore with no internet access for over a week.

It used to work fine with a regular Sky box. It doesn't for the new ones as they have (inexplicably) decided to add copy protection to the analog outputs. Which is annoying as it messes with my home video distribution setup. You need something that deals with CGMS/A and macrovision.

Fortunately it is easy and cheap to get around. In my case, a unit I bought from Jaycar 5-6 years ago to deal to macrovision (digitising my VHS collection before I binned it) works fine for me. Two colleagues where I work have recently bought a different brand of kit (the name of which escapes me at the moment) which also deals with the issue. Google is your friend on this.

However, if you are going to be capturing a bit, look for an HDMI-based recording solution instead. It will give much better results.

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Reply # 1886261 19-Oct-2017 13:56

JimmyH:

Sorry for the delay in responding, I have been offshore with no internet access for over a week.

It used to work fine with a regular Sky box. It doesn't for the new ones as they have (inexplicably) decided to add copy protection to the analog outputs. Which is annoying as it messes with my home video distribution setup. You need something that deals with CGMS/A and macrovision.

Fortunately it is easy and cheap to get around. In my case, a unit I bought from Jaycar 5-6 years ago to deal to macrovision (digitising my VHS collection before I binned it) works fine for me. Two colleagues where I work have recently bought a different brand of kit (the name of which escapes me at the moment) which also deals with the issue. Google is your friend on this.

However, if you are going to be capturing a bit, look for an HDMI-based recording solution instead. It will give much better results.

That explains why I used to be able to record to my DVD recorder but no longer can.

What would I be looking for at Jaycar, I'm at a bit of a loss and Google pretty much brought me to Geekzone?

Update: Went down to jaycar to ask if they had anything that I could use to accomplish this and they didn't have a clue.

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Reply # 1886941 20-Oct-2017 13:45

I just checked. The catalogue number of the kit I bought from Jaycar was AR1822, and it was listed as a video stabiliser.

However, I think I bought it back around 2010. I don't think they still carry it.

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Reply # 1886957 20-Oct-2017 14:09

JimmyH:

I just checked. The catalogue number of the kit I bought from Jaycar was AR1822, and it was listed as a video stabiliser.

However, I think I bought it back around 2010. I don't think they still carry it.

I''ve done more searching and I think I know how to do it now. I just have to wait for all the pieces to arrive and then I'll give it a go and report tback.

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Reply # 1886980 20-Oct-2017 14:39

This isn't difficult if you are willing to acquire the bits you need. They aren't expensive. I agree with the above that it is better to work from HDMI than analogue if you have the choice.

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Reply # 1887103 20-Oct-2017 19:29

The kit to do HDMI recording isn't unreasonably priced.

A splitter to remove HDCP will probably set you back about $40, and a decent USB external recorder with HDMI in probably about $250. A bit more if you want 1080p at 50/60FPS.

My kit is older (HD Fury 2 and device that records the output over component at 1080i), which won't be as good as an all-digital solution. But both options will handily beat SD analog. Having said that, I have many SD movies I recorded off Sky to DVD before I dropped their movie channel, and they are perfectly watchable.

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Reply # 1887374 21-Oct-2017 14:31

Yup that's what I'm waiting for, a splitter and I just picked up a portable Elgato capture unit of Trademe for $80 (used) so hopefully with that I'll be good to go.

I'm really just wanting to copy a couple of netball games off Mysky that my daughter played in that was broadcast on Sky, need to free up some space on it.

I'm hoping 1080p 30fps will suffice quality wise.

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Reply # 1887568 21-Oct-2017 20:39

A bit out of my area of expertise, 30/60 fps is the American standard. I doubt 1080p 30fps will give you the best quality, as that will add frame-rate conversion to the mix (which I understand can give "juddering" and other distortions to picture quality in some circumstances).

The PAL countries tend to be 25/50 fps. Personally I would try a couple of different options and see what gives you the best results. If your capture device is able to tell you the resolution and framerate that the Sky box is outputting then setting your capture parameters to match this will likely give the best results - I suspect 1080i50 will probably work best of the recording is HD, and 576p50 if it isn't.