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Topic # 248841 12-Apr-2019 11:01
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Great news for sport fans. SKY has today announced cheaper prices for our sports streaming app Fan Pass, in the first of a number of exciting changes to the app.
 
Fan Pass is SKY’s standalone live sport streaming service that gives New Zealanders access to SKY Sport channels 1, 2, 3 and 4 – anytime, anywhere, and on all leading devices. 
 
Sport fans will be able to access Fan Pass for $59 a month, and they can drop that down to $39 a month by signing up for six months.  That’s under $40 a month for Super Rugby, the Warriors, the ANZ Netball Premiership, to name a few, and of course from July it includes the All Blacks tests as they gear up for the RWC. Oh, and did we mention the Cricket World Cup starting in May, the Netball World Cup starting in July, and the FIFA Women’s World Cup?
 
Sport on the app can be cast to a big screen, making it a superb experience for fans who just want sport and nothing else.
 
“SKY has been broadcasting sport to New Zealanders for nearly 30 years, and in that time we’ve helped grow the sports that Kiwis love and built up a sport offering and production expertise that is world class” says SKY Chief Executive Martin Stewart.  
 
“We’re committed to delivering great sport to New Zealanders in ways that work for them. We’re listening to what our customers want, and today’s changes to Fan Pass pricing reflect that. There’s more to come, and we hope Fan Pass makes great sport accessible to even more Kiwi fans this year.”
 
The new pricing is available from Thursday 18 April on the Fan Pass website - www.fanpass.co.nz. Current Fan Pass customers don’t need to do anything – the price drop will automatically take effect on your next bill.  

 





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  Reply # 2215744 12-Apr-2019 13:51
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About time Sky got a reality check. Just shows how far out of touch the previous CEO was with the market.


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  Reply # 2215796 12-Apr-2019 14:44
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Still worse value than what they offered Spark customers for $30 a month


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2215827 12-Apr-2019 15:24
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Still worse value than what they offered Spark customers for $30 a month



True, but now anyone on any ISP can get it for a more realistic price.
With the more to come, maybe they add improvements to FanPass like OD replays. From other threads looks like just high lights at moment for on demand.

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  Reply # 2215854 12-Apr-2019 16:14
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And from the deals thread

 


12 Months Sky Starter/Entertainment (min 6 months)
Sports
My Sky 
Hd (included anyway)
12 months Soho (For GOT)
$48.99

 

 

 

 

 

Also note the new pricing is not yet live!

 

https://fanpass.co.nz/packages?type=0





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  Reply # 2215857 12-Apr-2019 16:26
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If they take a gander at Kayo and emulate that, then it would be a product worth paying for


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  Reply # 2215870 12-Apr-2019 16:44
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rugrat:
loceff13:

 

Still worse value than what they offered Spark customers for $30 a month

 



True, but now anyone on any ISP can get it for a more realistic price.
With the more to come, maybe they add improvements to FanPass like OD replays. From other threads looks like just high lights at moment for on demand.

 

Yep, its essentially live only, get up at 3am to watch sport. Unless its on Popup in which case you wont get it. It's still a very lite option, no matter what the price is. Years ago I felt they might go all out to a pure sports app, and not cheap. Maybe they will do a Kayo and give a full sports app, Sky Sports only, not Basic. That wont be $39. But you might get Fanpass for $39 and pay more for more Sports features such as OD replays and Popups? They may drop the price of the Basics or go back to one Basic, at a Netflix price point. Might be if you have Basic and get Sport, a discount. Have Sport get Basic, a discount. Ultimately it will be cheaper than now and gets the punters back. Problem is it gets the punters back but they then lose revenue on the current subscribers. BUT if all this takes them to 900,000 then the flailing ARPU is much less relevant 

 

More will come as Fanpass being cheaper doesn't solve the core problem. 


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  Reply # 2215871 12-Apr-2019 16:50
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If they take a gander at Kayo and emulate that, then it would be a product worth paying for

 

 

How much? Remember this is NZ not Australia with 5 x the population. As per my post I think a full sports app will happen. 


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  Reply # 2215893 12-Apr-2019 17:54
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What a joke. That's like paying Rolex prices for a omega.

I'll stick with kayo sports thanks.
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  Reply # 2215983 12-Apr-2019 19:36
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Being lazy, however, is fanpass free for Sky Subscribers? It would be nice to watch Sports when I am away from home occasionally. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2215989 12-Apr-2019 19:50
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How much? Remember this is NZ not Australia with 5 x the population. As per my post I think a full sports app will happen. 

 

 

Why should population size affect price?  Does UK pay 1/10 per person than us?  Does Monaco pay 100x as much?

 

The sooner the model moves away from regional and to a realistic per person price, the better


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  Reply # 2215997 12-Apr-2019 20:11
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Being lazy, however, is fanpass free for Sky Subscribers? It would be nice to watch Sports when I am away from home occasionally. 

 

 

 

 

Sky subscribers are not eligible.  I still get emails though, for some reason.

 

Ive watched a good bit of golf on SkyGo lately, it works great these days, and it has 26 channels, and all popups, I'd use that. Not sure what its like on a big screen, Fanpass would win that battle.


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  Reply # 2215999 12-Apr-2019 20:12
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tdgeek:

 

How much? Remember this is NZ not Australia with 5 x the population. As per my post I think a full sports app will happen. 

 

 

Why should population size affect price?  Does UK pay 1/10 per person than us?  Does Monaco pay 100x as much?

 

The sooner the model moves away from regional and to a realistic per person price, the better

 

 

Economies of Scale. UK would pay less per person to buy rights than we would. 


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  Reply # 2216004 12-Apr-2019 20:31
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Economies of Scale. UK would pay less per person to buy rights than we would. 

 

 

Doesn't make sense.  There's no scale involved.  We don't pay more for Netflix or Spotify (as far as I'm aware - I actually pay my Netflix subs in UK and I think it's marginally more expensive).


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  Reply # 2216007 12-Apr-2019 20:40
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tdgeek:

 

Economies of Scale. UK would pay less per person to buy rights than we would. 

 

 

Doesn't make sense.  There's no scale involved.  We don't pay more for Netflix or Spotify (as far as I'm aware - I actually pay my Netflix subs in UK and I think it's marginally more expensive).

 

 

Definition  - a proportionate saving in costs gained by an increased level of production.

 

If an Oz SVOD player buys F1 rights, it will cost more than what Sky or Spark will pay, but per head of population its a lower cost. More heads to divide the cost by. So if rights you buy for sport or movies is a lower cost per head, you can charge lower cost per head to the public. Another example is buying in bulk. If your business is big, you get a better deal, you have a better economy of scale. Your larger scale (size) gets a better economical return (cheaper price)

 

Happens all the time in NZ. I've been to many cities that are much bigger than our whole NZ population.

 

 


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Definition  - a proportionate saving in costs gained by an increased level of production.

 

If an Oz SVOD player buys F1 rights, it will cost more than what Sky or Spark will pay, but per head of population its a lower cost. More heads to divide the cost by. So if rights you buy for sport or movies is a lower cost per head, you can charge lower cost per head to the public. Another example is buying in bulk. If your business is big, you get a better deal, you have a better economy of scale. Your larger scale (size) gets a better economical return (cheaper price)

 

Happens all the time in NZ. I've been to many cities that are much bigger than our whole NZ population.

 

 

 

 

Oh sorry, I didn't realise that every person who watches F1 actually has their own copy hand-crafted before being streamed over an individual connection /sarc.  I understand how economy of scale works, but I don't see that it is relevant in this case.  Why isn't Spotify more expensive here or cheaper in UK?  Or Netflix?

 

There is no logical reason whatever why f1 rights, or any rights should cost more per head for a 4M population country than a 60M country.  This just seems an artificial argument for why Kayo sports etc is cheaper than Sky or Sport.

 

My personal view is that the cross-subsidising of Sky Sport from Sky basic, and the monopoly position that Sky enjoyed as a PPV provider, are what have driven our costs up.  We now see that this model doesn't work when competition kicks in, shown by the sudden drop in fanpass costs and the splitting of the various Sky packages.


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