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#262263 13-Jan-2020 18:16
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12299794

 

Do they really not install them on your roof anymore? I thought it depended on the property?


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  #2391156 13-Jan-2020 18:18
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At this point they'd probably be legally required to get a full house scaffold before they can set foot on the roof so this doesn't suprise me at all.




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  #2391161 13-Jan-2020 18:43
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Doesn't seem that high. When I quit Sky as the place we bought didn't have a dish, and I got Sky back, they installed at the gutter. Lifted a few tiles, fitted it, popped the tiles back. If it was long run, they can mount with existing tek screws.  Makes no sense to put the dish below any gutter, whether you lived there or not.


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  #2391165 13-Jan-2020 18:51
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tdgeek:

 

Doesn't seem that high. When I quit Sky as the place we bought didn't have a dish, and I got Sky back, they installed at the gutter. Lifted a few tiles, fitted it, popped the tiles back. If it was long run, they can mount with existing tek screws.  Makes no sense to put the dish below any gutter, whether you lived there or not.

 

 

Doesn't matter, people wont do crap on a roof without a certified scaffold installation now. Turned into Aussie practically, need to get some of the kiwi scaffolders over there to come back to lower the absurd pricing of it.





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  #2391169 13-Jan-2020 19:02
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That's a really silly place to put it, should of been put on the roof.


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  #2391172 13-Jan-2020 19:06
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lNomNoml:

 

That's a really silly place to put it, should of been put on the roof.

 

 

would you pay an extra $500-$1000 for a sky install? or just take the free one and have it on a wall?


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  #2391174 13-Jan-2020 19:07
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lNomNoml:

 

That's a really silly place to put it, should of been put on the roof.

 

 

Try getting the customer to pay for that and see how that goes. The sky dish install is a basic subsidized one in exchange for a minimal cheap term commitment. They cant afford to go doing height works etc for the small amount they are guarenteed over the customers use of the service. Sure many may go on to use it for years, but many do not.

 

Height work is $100s now. Even for things that do not need scaffolding. They have to put anchor points and stuff in which gives more leak possibilities if it is possible. The days of climbing up an extension ladder and running around on a roof and whacking a bracket in with 6 tek screws is long gone.





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  #2391223 13-Jan-2020 19:32
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It doesn’t cost that much to move a dish to the roof.
We had our roof replaced recently which involves a tonne of scaffolding. The scaffolding blocked the signal to our neighbours dish.

In the interest of being good neighbours we paid for the cost to move the dish. Sky was out the next day and sorted in a matter of hours. Cost them $89.99 including gst (just looked up the bill they sent us) which we covered for them.

The dish was originally mounted on their wall but was moved to the other side of the house and onto the roof. No way to install without walking on the roof.

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  #2391233 13-Jan-2020 20:17
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@tardtasticx: It doesn’t cost that much to move a dish to the roof.
We had our roof replaced recently which involves a tonne of scaffolding. The scaffolding blocked the signal to our neighbours dish.

In the interest of being good neighbours we paid for the cost to move the dish. Sky was out the next day and sorted in a matter of hours. Cost them $89.99 including gst (just looked up the bill they sent us) which we covered for them.

The dish was originally mounted on their wall but was moved to the other side of the house and onto the roof. No way to install without walking on the roof.

 

was there scaffolding there when sky moved it?


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  #2391288 13-Jan-2020 20:48
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richms:

 

Doesn't matter, people wont do crap on a roof without a certified scaffold installation now. Turned into Aussie practically, need to get some of the kiwi scaffolders over there to come back to lower the absurd pricing of it.

 

 

Except roofers. We had the roof replaced 2014, prices went up from an earlier quote due to the health and safety and cost of scaffolding. The boss said they always use scaffolding and safety equipment. They didn't use scaffolding at all, no safety ropes, just went up and did things like they always did. 


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  #2391335 13-Jan-2020 21:05
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WEird, mine got a whole scaffold in on both sides of my garage to reroof it. was a considerable amount of the cost, but luckilly they were able to leave it another week so the solar guys could use it too. They would work without one but take a lot longer to do it. They wont do that now so require it on anything over a single level off the ground.





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  #2391441 13-Jan-2020 23:50
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If have to have scaffolding how do they replace the LNB, on the existing roof ones?

 

Also the lower it is the more likely the signal could get blocked by something, time to hang the washing out on the balcony...


 
 
 
 

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  #2391444 14-Jan-2020 07:09
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Jase2985:

@tardtasticx: It doesn’t cost that much to move a dish to the roof.
We had our roof replaced recently which involves a tonne of scaffolding. The scaffolding blocked the signal to our neighbours dish.

In the interest of being good neighbours we paid for the cost to move the dish. Sky was out the next day and sorted in a matter of hours. Cost them $89.99 including gst (just looked up the bill they sent us) which we covered for them.

The dish was originally mounted on their wall but was moved to the other side of the house and onto the roof. No way to install without walking on the roof.


was there scaffolding there when sky moved it?



The scaffolding was on our property, that’s what blocked the neighbours signal.
No scaffolding was used on the neighbours property. Sky used a ladder only.

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  #2391446 14-Jan-2020 07:31
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rugrat: Also the lower it is the more likely the signal could get blocked by something, time to hang the washing out on the balcony... 

 

Just read the article and looked at the photo's. Not sure how hanging washing behind the dish would affect signal :-D

 

Overall, it's a pretty pathetic 'story.' Even more pathetic that NZ Herald would waste space and time publishing it and the BS it contains. The guy didn't have any garden view to start with - there's some trees across the road and a bit of sky. The satellite dish has little impact on either of those.

 

I think the chap is merely upset about the the dish being located where it is so complained to NZ Herald, who've obviously got a lot of spare time on their hands decided to try and sexy the story up. "Man doesn't like being able to see neighbours Sky dish" would be a more accurate headline but wouldn't get the eyeballs this type of click-bait rubbish attracts.


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  #2391452 14-Jan-2020 08:33
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A couple of years ago my neighbour had a soffit mounted dish installed "because we can't go on the roof" . It suited him because he didn't want them on his roof anyway. That would have been high enough to be out of the other unit's eye line. The instal featured in the Herald looks like the amount of effort being put in is getting scaled back to meet the installer rate and H&S is the excuse.

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  #2391454 14-Jan-2020 08:40
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It's extremely easy to cite H&S these days as an excuse for laziness. That dish could have easily been put on a soffit mount without the need to get on the roof.

 

I don't blame the Sky installers, they have been screwed down for years. But any excuse for an easy install is certainly their game.

 

Chorus are no better - their moronic process of running aerial lead-ins down to the ground, refusing to work on "unsafe" poles that haven't actually been inspected and don't have a DNC tag etc..


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