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afonsog

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#303368 5-Feb-2023 09:17
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Hello, everyone!

 

Sorry for going a bit offtopic (even if it is just by a small margin).

 

I am a satellite TV enthusiast from Europe and have been working with a team on a project called hacktv. Using the HackRF SDR, we generate and transmit a video signal that emulates the analog video encryption systems (Videocrypt, Eurocrypt, etc.) exactly the way they behaved in the 1990s, producing a signal that is recognizable - and decodable - using the old cards and devices. We literally keep these old machines alive!

 

This is, of course, well and truly only for research purposes (and nostalgia), as all analogue services have long ceased to function.

 

To acheive this, we depend on both the original documentation and by analysing the cards themselves, as they contain enough 'crumbs' for us to reverse-engineer and transmit the way the original channel would have done.

 

Having mostly done everything we can with the "standard" versions of Videocrypt that were used over here (by Sky in the UK and Multichoice in Central Europe), we are now turning our attention to the international "offshoots" of the system - Starcrypt, Newscrypt and "kiwi" Videocrypt. These were used around your parts both for pay-TV, both on Satellite and UHF.

 

At the moment, I am trying to find the following: 
-Sky Television NZ Videocrypt cards (there were at least two revisions)
-Videocrypt SVA3 decoder and viewing cards (used by EMTV and PNG)
-STARNet SND-105 decoders (used both by STAR TV and Indovision),
-Any sort of analogue viewing cards (might either say the provider's name or a more generic "News Datacom")

 

 

So I would like to ask if any "veteran" still has some of this equipment, and is willing to give us a helping hand. It's for a good cause!

 

If you're curious, you can check out a demonstration (on Videocrypt simulcryption) on the video below, made by my colleague Alex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLgV94x5Wb4

 

Thanks in advance
Afonso


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  #3032043 5-Feb-2023 10:48
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thats going back a while.

 

if i remember correctly there was no kiwi version, its identical to, i think, uk version. people here used to buy blank cards and use them here. they would work until the system shut the card off and then they use another blank card. but this was a long time ago and memory is a bit rusty. 




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  #3032167 5-Feb-2023 14:52
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Yes I think you are right that is was the UK version in NZ,

 

I know a few people who used season 7 software to decrpt sky on their computer. Some others used a PCB connected to the computer and put that PCB into the sky decoder and it would decode using the sky decoder, lastly, in the early days of sky, you owned your own decoder, I know someone who modified theirs by adding a 10k resistor and inserting the card and once it started to decode, remove the card, it was all good until the power failed.

 

All of the above we hacks from the UK 





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  #3032242 5-Feb-2023 16:15
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Off-topic... We couldn't afford Sky but as kids, we used to "listen" to movies and programs on those UHF channels. Very occasionally Sky used to turn the scrambling / analog encryption off.



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  #3032489 6-Feb-2023 14:20
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I had a 1st gen decoder (without a tuner) and ended up getting a S-VHS deck with a SCART for the decoder. Could easily change channels and record sky plus movie channel was in NICAM Stereo.  I have the original key card...somewhere. 


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  #3032781 7-Feb-2023 10:41
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SATTV:

 

Yes I think you are right that is was the UK version in NZ,

 

I know a few people who used season 7 software to decrpt sky on their computer. Some others used a PCB connected to the computer and put that PCB into the sky decoder and it would decode using the sky decoder, lastly, in the early days of sky, you owned your own decoder, I know someone who modified theirs by adding a 10k resistor and inserting the card and once it started to decode, remove the card, it was all good until the power failed.

 

All of the above we hacks from the UK 

 

 

 

 

Yes, you are correct in saying that it was indeed the same base system (the early decoders - SVA1 - were literally surplus UK stock shipped to NZ), however, the way the cards themselves worked was ever so slightly different. While based on the same architecture, the UK cards gave out different "responses" than the NZ ones when prompted with the same data (or so I've read in hacking reports of the time - another reason for us to find one of these cards and dig deeper!).

 

 

 

All the hacks you've mentioned were indeed "imported" from Europe, Markus Kuhn's SEASON7 being the most famous example (surely with some sort of regional modification for SkyNZ introduced by your local hacking groups). All the other "standard" hacks - Ho Lee Fook, etc - would also theoretically work, because of the cards' similarities.

 

However, NewsCorp obviously made a mistake in making the small diffs between UK and NZ cards too small, thus making the "export" of hacks easy. They learned their lesson for the next "batch" of VC regional variants, namely StarCrypt and NewsCrypt.


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  #3032783 7-Feb-2023 10:43
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myfullflavour: Off-topic... We couldn't afford Sky but as kids, we used to "listen" to movies and programs on those UHF channels. Very occasionally Sky used to turn the scrambling / analog encryption off.

 

 

 

We did the same over here with MTV and VH-1... scrambled video, but clear audio :)


 
 
 

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  #3032786 7-Feb-2023 10:45
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andrewcnz:

 

I had a 1st gen decoder (without a tuner) and ended up getting a S-VHS deck with a SCART for the decoder. Could easily change channels and record sky plus movie channel was in NICAM Stereo.  I have the original key card...somewhere. 

 

 

 

 

Ooooohhh! Exactly the kind of reply I was looking for! Please do look for it if you have the chance, as you could very well be a lifesaver on this project! :D

 

(Of course I'll compensate you accordingly.)


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  #3032809 7-Feb-2023 11:42
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afonsog:

 

myfullflavour: Off-topic... We couldn't afford Sky but as kids, we used to "listen" to movies and programs on those UHF channels. Very occasionally Sky used to turn the scrambling / analog encryption off.

 

 

 

We did the same over here with MTV and VH-1... scrambled video, but clear audio :)

 

 

Ditto.... funny thing was, quite often when you did get an unscrambled feed, SKy would never advertise it or anything as a "free weekend" - 9/10 it was that some of their gear had failed :D

 

 





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  #3069742 30-Apr-2023 21:31
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Just a small bump to this thread - still looking for a card!


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  #3197667 19-Feb-2024 20:59
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Finally found the original sky key card OP was after! 

 

 


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  #3197690 19-Feb-2024 23:13
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Wow that is a blast from the past! Amazing!

 

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  #3197701 20-Feb-2024 07:33
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Love it! 

 

Always been interested in this area... what would be more current information relevant to NZ 🧐





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  #3198030 20-Feb-2024 21:12
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Awesome news! Have sent a PM to @andrewcnz to sort out the details 😄

 

Thank you to all who contributed to this discussion as well! Cheers from the other side of the world.


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