Sky Motorola 585 Decoder via component only 576i???

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#30784 21-Feb-2009 11:51

Any way to change the output of these decoders to 576p? I haven't found it anywhere.

I had asked for a Pace 230 decoder, but told these were out of stock.

It took the installer 3 decoders to find one that worked, looks like they're using refurbished decoders.

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#197114 21-Feb-2009 14:25

been using refurbs for a long time now,

about the only new decoder you will get is a mysky HDI

and no there is no way to change the component output to 576p, its only standard definition, even calling it 576i is a bit of a joke

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#197118 21-Feb-2009 14:33

what about the pace 230s? Do they do 576p off component?

Seriously I think I'm geting a worse picture from sky via component than i was with TelstraClear via composite!!

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#197133 21-Feb-2009 17:01

llamma: been using refurbs for a long time now,

about the only new decoder you will get is a mysky HDI

and no there is no way to change the component output to 576p, its only standard definition, even calling it 576i is a bit of a joke

576i is standard definition PAL, or are you assuming Sky transmits something else.

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#197134 21-Feb-2009 17:15

I thought 576p was?

Guess I'm wrong. Was hoping I get a picture improvement by using component cable.

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#197169 21-Feb-2009 20:11

Exactly what improvement will 576p offer? .....none, the source is 576i, this is the SD transmission standard, nothing else. Skys SD boxs will output only 576i as this is our national SD standard, what else were you expecting. Further to that, 576p will offer no advantage, in the NTSC world there are some advantages to using 480p, but in the 50Hz world 576i is as good as it gets and does not offer any tangable difference that 480p offers to 480i.

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#197170 21-Feb-2009 20:27

mainly as i was seeing the interlacing, I would have thought that 576p would remove this. And 576i wasn't what I ws expecting.

But i have been corrected by openmedia.

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#197183 21-Feb-2009 22:20

Hi, sorry if I seemed a bit grumpy on that, but the standard since the 60s has been 576i or PAL in the old language, progressive has no place in the SD world of broadcasting.

If you are seeing interlacing artifacts then look at your TV design, some do very good jobs others very poorly, the worst deinterlacers I have seen are Toshiba Razza, complete rubbish, jaggies all over the place, good performers seem to be Panasonic, Sony and Pioneer. There are others out there recent Sammys seem to be good as do latter LGs. Other than HD sources there is no option other than in your TV to deinterlace, so what you buy matters.

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#197184 21-Feb-2009 22:34

No worries. I do have a samsung.

Are there any options that you can think of that i should turn off/on etc?

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#197187 21-Feb-2009 22:41

Hi, unfortunately they offer no options that effect the deinterlacer, however turn the DNIe off, you may find after that you need to up the contrast and drop the black level to get some level of reality back as the DNIe seems to compensate for a rather flat gamma on most LCDs and if off you need to compensate, however with it on there are lots of unstable blacklevel things happening, so best off.

I noted only yesterday at a customers home with a late model Sammy that there were some jaggies when I had never seen them before, this was watching a FreeViewHD Zinwell on the Demo channel and TV3. Changing to a W series Sony abdicated the STB or source, so the Sammy had some explaining, as I said you need to check what you are buying.

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