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#62683 12-Jun-2010 10:12
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Watched the world cup last night on my new Epson 3500 Projector and I couldn't help but notice the stark difference between the picture quality of ONE HD and Sky "HD" With Sky HD looking anything BUT high definition.

Is this normal? I have wondered over the last few months if Sky HD is ACTUALLY HD because compared to Foxtel with the league and Super Rugby, it looks outright rubbish. 

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  #340903 12-Jun-2010 10:36
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is the world cup broadcast in HD on ONE? i didnt think it was advertised as HD. although it's very hard to determine which TVNZ shows are HD broadcast unlike tv3 who makes it very clear which one are and which ones arent. not all sky shows are in HD either. sky probably transmits stuff in much reduced bitrate for both audio and visual to save bandwidth. just guessing.



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  #340908 12-Jun-2010 11:05
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TVNZ has a HD logo with their station bug when they have a program in HD.




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  #340911 12-Jun-2010 11:14
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yes but their schedule is not often clear which ones are and arent. i stay away from non HD unless real good. i catch a glimpse of HDs just for the sake of it! someone confirm that world cup's NOT in HD?



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  #340915 12-Jun-2010 11:55
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i was watching it last night on myski HDi and the quality on sky was much better then there feed of TV One HD which wasn't even in HD

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  #340916 12-Jun-2010 11:59
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World Cup is definetly without a doubt HD on Sky Sports, All games live HD and 5.1 sound, clearly advertised in alot of places, looked pretty good on my tv last night definetly HD. TV One are playing their live games in HD as well, not sure about the highlights packages will tell you tonight. TVNZ 7 obviously won't be HD though.

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  #340922 12-Jun-2010 12:28
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they weren't broadcasting the replays in HD, which sucks, going to have to clean up the hard drive to see them in HD,




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  #340945 12-Jun-2010 14:23
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TV One was definitely broadcasting the South Africa vs. Mexico match in HD last night (this morning). It looked absolutely stunning!
During the lead-up to the game it was in SD until they suddenly switched it to HD around the time they played the Mexican national anthem, and man what a difference!! It was like Day vs. Night. During the half-time ad break they also came back with an SD feed and then switched back to HD a minute or two before the game started up again. Maybe TVNZ pay Kordia by the Mb/s so were conserving bandwidth? Anyone know if that might be the case?

As for Sky, I can't compare between the two as I don't have Sky.

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  #340984 12-Jun-2010 17:38
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Last night compared freeview HD vs MySky hdi feeds of the mexico south africa game with split screen side-by-side. I can honestly say that the Sky HD feed is of higher quality than the TVNZ HD feed. Everyone else who was over watching the game all agreed that Sky Sport had the superior feed, so not quite sure what you are on about.
Everyone else in this thread would have noticed the Sky Sport HD feed having higher quality sound.
The only thing I can say to answer you question is, do you have the SKY HD ticket???

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  #341114 13-Jun-2010 03:06
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The feed is coming into Sky and being onpassed to TVNZ.
I wonder if anyone told TVNZ they'd have to make a score ticker.

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  #341148 13-Jun-2010 11:20
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wow it was HD indeed! now i wonder if all highlights are in HD too ... anyone knows?

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  #341203 13-Jun-2010 13:49
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No the highlights are not. TVNZ have very limited capabaility when playing out HD, they simply wire the feed to the DVB-T encoder.




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  #341207 13-Jun-2010 13:56
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bigbadkiwi: Last night compared freeview HD vs MySky hdi feeds of the mexico south africa game with split screen side-by-side. I can honestly say that the Sky HD feed is of higher quality than the TVNZ HD feed. Everyone else who was over watching the game all agreed that Sky Sport had the superior feed, so not quite sure what you are on about.
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hmmmm . . . watching at my friends place the other night and noticed the same as the original op. The TV1 HD feed was noticably more HD looking (better) than the sky feed. The four of us watching all agreed freeview feed looked better than sky.
Guess it depends on equipment being used to view.

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  #341257 13-Jun-2010 16:55
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Yeah we need someone who has the equipment to compare bitrates of both feeds somehow. Interesting that there is any difference considering TVNZ and sky and both receiving their HD feeds from SBS australia. I can defintely say that the Sky Sport HD feed is of higher quality than the TV one HD feed that is available through sky (not freeview HD).

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  #341263 13-Jun-2010 17:25
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Why would HD feed come from SBS Australia - I'm gobsmacked if it does???, most likely feed comes directly from SA at 45 Mbps 1080i over fibre. The broadcaster then does what they wish. TVNZ broadcast 720p at 8 Mbps on DVB-T H.264 which is low bitrate obviously. I doubt if the DVB-S2 H.264 TV1 transmission is any different though.




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  #341269 13-Jun-2010 17:42
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Just had a quick look at the TV One HD footage I recorded of the South Africa vs. Mexico game. It seems to be hovering around the 14Mbps mark, sometimes peaking at 18Mbps. So that's not too bad really.

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