Free on Telecom, but not Vodafone??

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#1047 8-Feb-2004 12:22

I've now had 'modern' phones on both Tlcm and Vdfn, and I've found one startling difference - on Vodafone, it costs money to simply browse the Live! menu, but on Telecom, it's all free until you either leave the WAP site, or you request a News article etc... Why is this? I find Telecom a lot more useful as you can browse the headlines, look at available ringtones and other stuff, and not pay a cent! But Vodafone costs heaps to simply look around their Live! site...

WHY??!!

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#3350 8-Feb-2004 12:33

Are you on prepay or contract?

All traffic on Telecom is charged. If you're on prepay the charges are applied a few minutes later.

spazz

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#3351 8-Feb-2004 12:36

i'm on prepay

so are you saying it costs to navigate round the WAP menu? the telecom guy said it was "free to browse the WAP menu, but costs once you leave the main site"

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#3352 8-Feb-2004 12:48

AFAIK all traffic is charged on a per page basis, but I'll check this. It might be that the services menu are free, but I had the idea that everything was charged.

I'll let you know more tomorrow.

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#3353 8-Feb-2004 12:49

cheers freitasm, much appreciated

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#3355 8-Feb-2004 16:22

Hi all,

Usually no such thing as a free lunch.

On the page below:
It's free to browse around the main Xtra WAP Menu and some of the sub-menus on your mobile phone. Generally you only start paying when you leave those menus and begin to use the services or enter an application such as a game. To find out more about this service read Things You Should Know.

All content marked with an "*" will cost 35c (incl GST) to read that page or perform that particular task. For example when you read a specific news article or choose to send an Xtra Email from your 027 mobile.

All content outside the Xtra WAP menu will cost .05c/kb.

All WAP games are 7c per page (excluding downloadable Java games)

http://xtra.co.nz/mobile/0,,10311-2463434,00.html

For Vodafone.

You pay for data charges as soon as you connect but a lot of the content is free to view.
data rates apply to all the pages that you view on Vodafone live! at all times. These data rates are based on your standard GPRS data plan rates, but are only rounded to the nearest 1 KB, not 10KB like other GPRS usage.

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/vlive/vlive_pricing.jsp?hd=foryou&st=vlive&ss=vlivepricing

Personally it comes down to what you choose as you cant really compare the two services side by side as some people might think that the content say on Vodafone is better and price has nothing to do with it.

Like everything in life price is not everything.

My preferred choice is Vodafone for the millions of other things you can do on Vodafone which simply Telecom dont have. Like free PXT till march, global roaming when Im overseas the list is endless.

This post will stir up a hornets ness and I can see everyone will have differnet say on whats better.

you choose on what you want to do.

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#3356 8-Feb-2004 16:47

I'll stir a little bit more... I don't actually use Vodafone live!, but use GPRS. I have a P800 and it's very good to check my e-mails on the go. Although the P800 is a very good smartphone, I also have a Pocket PC that I connect via Bluetooth. Checking e-mails is great on the P800, but I still like the bigger screen on the Pocket PC.

I have a Mobile Connect Card on my laptop and use it in some ocasions, but not much. Mainly because I have my Pocket PC on me most of the time, and the laptop only when travelling.

I've added a wi-fi card to my laptop last time I went to the US. Simply put, I refuse to pay NZ$30/MB on GPRS when roaming, if I can have wi-fi for US$19.95 all I can browse/month while there - and it was free anyway because I was attending the Bluetooth Americas and they have free wi-fi access during the event. I still used the phone for calls, of course.

As per Telecom's offering, I've had the chance to have their CDMA PC Card for a while at work, plus the HTC Falcon review here on Geekzone (also known as Thera PPC 5050). Their Pocket PC Phone Edition is very impressive, but not much faster than connecting via GPRS.

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#3381 9-Feb-2004 11:49

some vodafone content you pay for twice.
you pay once for the traffic, and again for the content such as a ringtone..

telecom's ringtone, you only pay for the ringtone (if on telecom's download central site)

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#6899 28-Jun-2004 21:46

Telecom jast have a free GPRS only on the home page. Vodafone PAYS 5c mb.

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#6914 29-Jun-2004 10:53

that's about right. - anything linked to the xtra mobile menu is free.
it actaully spread across many sites (try and view the URL in your wap browser and you'll see)
but they're all zero-rated domain names. - they only charge fo the asterix marked pages.

once you leave the group of zero rated domains, youll start being charged.