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Topic # 115565 30-Mar-2013 11:22
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Having seen the work with 4G, my next phone would probably be a 4G at least that it gives me the next decade of technology. 

I read that South Korea first debutted 3G to customers in 2001. 

We've had 3G for some time now, I've seen what prepaid data packages are available and what they are also available on post paid. 

The caps are not that large, with these phones is it feasible to watch TV on Demand outside on the phone itself or Youtube or Skype, the apps are plentiful out there.  What I am seeing for myself is that we might have these 3G or even 4G phones and we just read emails and read the news.  Or even a tablet in that regard, we have a great 10" screen but the internet is so expensive, I gather even for normal webpages b/c that consumes a lot more data than mobile pages. 

Is it just about using it at home or in the hotel?  I have friends overseas where their Smartphones are their internet at home too. 

Is this just the small population density, 2Degrees might have a larger data cap for the price but 12GB seems to be the largest and it's $99.  I don't use that much data, I'm quite happy with 20GB, 200 minutes thrown in but that's might set me back $250 a month.

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  Reply # 789666 30-Mar-2013 16:42
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Wireless spectrum is a finite resource. This means that it has to be priced accordingly, with wireless connectivity maintaining a price premium over fixed line connections.

One of the things NSN are working towards is the network capability to offer networks smart enough to handle 1GB per user per day by 2020.

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For many technical and economic reasons mobile internet just can't compete with fixed. Your best bet is to use wireless is fixed line to your premises then 802.11n or 802.11ac wireless.







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  Reply # 789695 30-Mar-2013 18:36
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I know what you are both saying.  We're moving to 4G and hardly scratched the surface on 3G.  Sure overseas some are all you can use mobile data, in NZ is not even practical, let alone not being affordable.  I've got my 3G or 4G phone and I cannot watch tv on demand, do I really get a phone and read the news and check the weather ... and if I was going to use a fixed line at home, the idea of a phone is to be used outside, I rather have a larger screen if I am house bound. 

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  Reply # 789705 30-Mar-2013 18:51
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rayonline:  We're moving to 4G and hardly scratched the surface on 3G. 


What do you mean by this?

While mobile data in NZ may not be the cheapest in the world I hardly consider it unaffordable. I use around 1.5GB per month on my phone and that's pretty much doing everything I want while mobile.




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  Reply # 789708 30-Mar-2013 19:00
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I mean that we had 3G for the last decade and now trialling 4G. A cellphone is to be used to outside, the data is not affordable if one wants watch an hour of video streaming per day when they out and/or when they commuting to school or work and if one is outside for some time and they carry a laptop (teethered or 3G/4G sticks) or they have an iPad for example and as people do outside with friends in weekends like at a park or cafe. Ie Youtube, uploading videos, photographs, Skyping mic and/or webcam chatting. 

 

The common person haven't been able to do much of these stuff with 3G and we're now moving to 4G.  In the NZ context that is.

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  Reply # 789727 30-Mar-2013 20:10
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I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here Ray. I've been using 3g for home broadband for a number of years now. (~6GB per month). Plus my mobile has a 3GB data package attached... on a good month I'll use a third of it. And I know others who have similar plans and connections

To say 3g is not affordable or practical is simply not true.



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  Reply # 789732 30-Mar-2013 20:22
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Maybe I've got a international perspective ... there are things that cannot be done here.  Like - meet up with friends unable to upload pictures or videos online or do Skype calls when you're with a few people together.  Or commuting to work or play or school and streaming videos like watching draams while one is on the bus.  If one is just killing time and just surfing and watching videos until it's time.  Two people at home who use the net, the others do not, we use 40GB a month on ADSL.  We don't do much downloads.  From what I understand 40GB is pretty light, some people have data usage in the 100+. 

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  Reply # 789735 30-Mar-2013 20:37
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We average 400-500gbs at home not including what I stream

I get by with 1gb per month of data mobile - but it is barely enough for the basics and I don't even consume media.

If prices were more reasonable I would pay more each month for access to 5-10gbs

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