Am thinking I might as well replace my current phone with a newer one, as it is getting really old and pretty damaged. Replace it with a phone that I will actually want to bother taking care off. Am considering the Sony Ericsson K800i, as I believe it is this phone that a friend of mine uses to take photos with when he is out at night. (I don't think optical zoom would be important for me, as most of my photos will be taken while out at bars/clubs/parties at night. So most of these will be taken at a distance of 10 meters at most, and more often much much less. So I'm correct on this point regarding optical zoom, not needed? Admittedly I haven't ever had a dedicated digital camera before but from what I know I believe optical zoom is unimportant, and digital zoom... well that isn't really zooming anyway)

The price for a Sony Ericsson K800i is not too bad: http://itd.co.nz/product/Sony-Ericsson-K800i/62/

Also might consider http://itd.co.nz/product/Nokia-N73-Silver-Black/460/ but it doesn't have a xeon flash, so likely to be bad for night shots when out and about. Besides, I feel the price of that one is getting a little pricey. Am already going to have the Okta Touch (once insurance/contract gets sorted out), and that is a $800 phone. So no point having two outrageously expensive phones.... Telecom is my "main phone", vodafone is really just my secondary/backup phone. And is for all those friends who have TXT2000 and prefer txting to a 021 number (which is the plan I have my current vodafone cell on, which is a Sony Ericsson K300i).

If there is any other phone with a really good flash for taking pictures at night that I should consider please let me know.

Oh, and it would be great if I can access my txt messages on the phone to copy across to my computer. That would be a really nifty feature too.

Basically that is my two key desires for the new phone to have: copying txts across & good night photos.