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#2640 29-Oct-2004 06:37

Hey, seeing as I can't find any more Gtrans in NZ new, I was going to get one off Trademe, but it says that it is not connected to the network...

How much would it cost to connect to teh PrePaid 027 network? $10 text and all that...

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  #9688 29-Oct-2004 07:50
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Any telecom dealer can connect it for you. It should be $20 with $20 credit, and they just need to make a call to connect it then program the phone with the number you get allocated.

$10 dollar text will automatically be on there and you should be able to use the phone straight away.

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#9690 29-Oct-2004 07:55
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Why would it be disconnected? I know tehre are some reasons, but just in case, make sure this is running NZ firmware, and it's not an import.




 

 

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  #9691 29-Oct-2004 08:03
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Would also pay to run the esn (serial number) past telecom to make sure its not listed as stolen or anything, this would also tell you if the phone is available to be connected to the telecom network.
Ask for the serial number before paying and call *123 or a dealer to get the esn checked.

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  #9692 29-Oct-2004 08:25
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I would have thought that all handsets sold on Trademe would be disconnected, because the sellers would want to transfer their phone numbers to their new handsets or close down their accounts so that they don't continue to get billed.

The only exception I can think of is if someone changes providers and wants to sell off their old 027 prepaid.

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#9693 29-Oct-2004 08:35
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Fair enough about the comment on jumping ship and selling on Trademe. This is valid for Accounts, but prepay should be connected - unless it wasn't used for a long time... Still, it's good to make sure this is not an import without warranties or with a menu in Chinese or Korean. I know someone who showed me his shiny new P900. It works well with almost everything in English, except the Phone Book and Calendar which are in Chinese...




 

 

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  #9694 29-Oct-2004 13:19
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not just the ship jumpers.
whenever i 'upgrade' my 027, it's an ESN swap.
and then i sell the old one on trademe. - they fetch pretty good prices too.

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Alternatively if you contact me on 04 4999 763 or message me with the ESN I can tell you if it's a valid ESN for the New Zealand market. You'd still need to talk to Telecom about the disconnected/account status side. If it's been disconnected for a reason ie: reported stolen, unpaid bills, etc.etc you may have some fun getting it live again.

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PS: You won't have a warranty either as it's a 2nd hand unit.




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  #9746 1-Nov-2004 13:25
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I am surprised that you guys haven't brought in any more gtran models, Jarad. From what I gather, the 4020 was quite a popular and cost effective handset and I'm sure there must be a market for gtran models here. Is it a case of Telecom not wanting to invest in PTC-ing them, or are you guys just focussing on other areas at the moment?

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  #9747 1-Nov-2004 13:57
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There were several other models that were looked into, including one that would have blown the Sanyo 8100 and anything else in the market at the time out of the water. But PTC'ing aside, for it to be cost effective Telecom needs to commit to purchasing a quantity of them.

Normally Telecom tends to deal directly with the manufacturer (Samsung, Hyundai, Nokia etc), but as we're the GTran distributor, unless they commit to a model of phone it doesn't happen. When we place an order for phones the minimum order quantity is usually about 5000 units (with ~3month build times).

Bearing in mind the outright retail price of most phones is ~$900-1200, it adds up to a pretty hefty sum. Telecom then normally subsidises the handsets for upgrades & accounts which brings it down to the $200-500 price everyones become accustomed to.

There may be something in future, but currently AFAIK the phones have been put on hold, and we're concentrating on getting the GTran EVDO card to market (sorry, not my area this time, so no hard ETA's).

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  #9763 1-Nov-2004 20:27
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Thanks, Jared. Hopefully you guys might be able to offer something in the longer term, as many people here are, justifiably, whining about the lack of choice of handsets on the Telecom network.

In the meantime, I want to see this USB EVDO adaptor which we were promised a while ago!

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The Seirra Wireless EVDO Card is proven and has speed averaging about 1Meg download on EVDO , and it good to go now. GTRANS product range is a very small one compared to the big boys which have A wider choice for Telecom to choose from.

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  #9958 5-Nov-2004 21:12
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1 meg evdo is probably due to light network loadings.

As far as ESNs go, anyone is welcome to email an ESN or a mobile phone number to me, and I will let you know if its connected or not.

If its not connected, I can tell you whether its valid, listed as lost or stolen, and the last time it was on the network (i.e. that its a New Zealand phone that -will- work here)

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Lucent are guarunteeing (to telecom) 1.3Mbit during peak demands.. faster at other times.

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  #10047 8-Nov-2004 14:29
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Its like CDMA 1x. We get over 100k download all the time, and most people should be getting 120k upload, yet Telecom still only claim an average of 40-80k. This gives them A: room to move if there are network issues, and B: a good way to impress customers (understate the speed)







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