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#47386 11-Nov-2009 13:38
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freitasm: Folks, I will lock this thread because it's obvious this is going nowhere since there isn't a handset that works in all as stated.


With all due respect, I'm not so sure. According to gsmarena, these handsets will work on all three networks (ie will support GSM 900/1800 and UMTS 850/900/2100)...

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sName=&idMaker=0&chkGSM900=selected&chkGSM1800=selected&chkUMTS850=selected&chkUMTS900=selected&chkUMTS2100=selected





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  #272039 11-Nov-2009 13:57
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The problem is that those sites list all frequencies supported by all models - not individual models. It means that model will have three different versions covering the combination of bands, but not a single one doing all bands.

There are some handsets from Nokia coming soon that will do it. The HTC Pro 2 does it.

I locked the other discussion because it started with incorrect assumptions and it wouldn't give the correct information out.




 

 

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  #272051 11-Nov-2009 14:35
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freitasm: The problem is that those sites list all frequencies supported by all models - not individual models. It means that model will have three different versions covering the combination of bands, but not a single one doing all bands.


OK, apologies, should have done a bit more digging before posting. In my past experience, GSM Arena has been reasonably good about separating out band support for different models, not so in this case it would appear. To be fair, Nokia and Ericsson seem to have been pretty careless in thier press releases on the subject.

freitasm: There are some handsets from Nokia coming soon that will do it. The HTC Pro 2 does it.


Yes, it seems clear that it is just a matter of time before dual UMTS 850/900 handsets come out. Presumably at some point it will become the standard, much like quad band GSM support is now.




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  #272096 11-Nov-2009 16:58
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well the nokia 6500 slide works on vodafone, telecom xt and 2degrees just fine, on all frequencies except Vodafones 900umts extended 3g or sumthing. love it.




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#272099 11-Nov-2009 17:15
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tardtasticx: well the nokia 6500 slide works on vodafone, telecom xt and 2degrees just fine, on all frequencies except Vodafones 900umts extended 3g or sumthing. love it.


That's what we are discussing here - it doesn't work on Vodafone 3G 900MHz, so it's not like it "works in all just fine".

It may work on 2100MHz WCDMA, which means it works on Vodafone 3G but not on XT 850MHz. It may work on XT in a handful of 2100 MHz site that exist, but not on the entire network. And on 2degrees it will be 2G only.





 

 

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  #272102 11-Nov-2009 17:30
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Currently if you want something that will work on all networks it will be best to get a phone that supports the telecom 850 MHZ WCDMA network.
Most of these phones support 2100 MHZ WCDMA so it will cover vodafone around the whole country and if that does not provide enough coverage for vodafone it will drop back to 900 GSM which is currently used by 2 Degrees.

I think 2 Degrees new WCDMA sites will also run 2100MHZ.

Just won't be able to use the 900MHZ WCDMA that vodafone has in the main center's

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  #272103 11-Nov-2009 17:32
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mckenndk: Just won't be able to use the 900MHZ WCDMA that vodafone has in the main center's


Correction: the 900MHz is mostly used outside the main centres.




 

 

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  #272110 11-Nov-2009 17:53
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Correction: the 900MHz is mostly used outside the main centres.


Yes your right it is the other way round I though it was 2100MHZ over most of the country as when I was in national park recently they had 2100WCDMA coverage there and thought it was strange and it must be 2100WCDMA over most of the country.

Looking on vodafones website the 3G broadband comes from sites on Mount Ruapheu I can only guess they put them there as alot of people holiday in the area from the main centers and want to be able to work while on holiday.

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  #272130 11-Nov-2009 18:53
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freitasm:
tardtasticx: well the nokia 6500 slide works on vodafone, telecom xt and 2degrees just fine, on all frequencies except Vodafones 900umts extended 3g or sumthing. love it.


That's what we are discussing here - it doesn't work on Vodafone 3G 900MHz, so it's not like it "works in all just fine".

It may work on 2100MHz WCDMA, which means it works on Vodafone 3G but not on XT 850MHz. It may work on XT in a handful of 2100 MHz site that exist, but not on the entire network. And on 2degrees it will be 2G only.

 


Its got 850 AND 2100mhz wcdma. Perfect for telecom and vodafone 3g. So it is still compatible with all networks because you can still use vodafone on the 2g network without 900umts




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  #272131 11-Nov-2009 18:53
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I expect a phone to be compatible with all network when it actually works across all their frequencies.




 

 

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  #272137 11-Nov-2009 19:46
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tardtasticx:
freitasm:
tardtasticx: well the nokia 6500 slide works on vodafone, telecom xt and 2degrees just fine, on all frequencies except Vodafones 900umts extended 3g or sumthing. love it.


That's what we are discussing here - it doesn't work on Vodafone 3G 900MHz, so it's not like it "works in all just fine".

It may work on 2100MHz WCDMA, which means it works on Vodafone 3G but not on XT 850MHz. It may work on XT in a handful of 2100 MHz site that exist, but not on the entire network. And on 2degrees it will be 2G only.

 


Its got 850 AND 2100mhz wcdma. Perfect for telecom and vodafone 3g. So it is still compatible with all networks because you can still use vodafone on the 2g network without 900umts


But absolutely worthless because Vodafone's focus is now on delivering 3G for their buildout - with 900 being the focus. There are already places that thay have 900 3G coverage with no GSM so a phone without 900 is not going to deliver the best end user experience.


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