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Topic # 8361 23-Jun-2006 13:24
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Given that Nokia does stop making (their own -edited  24-June) CMDA phones, it doesn't leave a wide range of phones for Telecom NZ given they have made a commitment to continue using CDMA technology.

Will sort of be, you're with Telecom NZ. Oh, you have a Sanyo phone then.

I wonder if LG, Pantech or Sumsung will make anything more than buget CMDA phones available in NZ?
Ah, Bluetooth on a mobile phone was all hype anyway. Laughing

Should be interesting for the future of CDMA.

Looking forward to the new Sony Ericsson K800...

Sorry Telecom NZ, I guess it's just one of those years.






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  Reply # 39447 23-Jun-2006 14:03
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Nokia never said they were going to stop producing CDMA phones. But limit the markets and decrese R&D. So probably just a more limited range for the American market

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  Reply # 39467 23-Jun-2006 18:56

bradstewart: Nokia never said they were going to stop producing CDMA phones. But limit the markets and decrese R&D. So probably just a more limited range for the American market



Which doesnt mean that they will not stop totally to produce CDMA handsets in the future. The whole CDMA market seems confused at the moment and some Operators are really think to swap to GSM or build W-CDMA.




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  Reply # 39487 24-Jun-2006 00:08
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Nokia are seeing less sales at the moment due to just basically shafting so many people to gain market share. Things like forcing network operators to do stuff on demand and making crap phones with STN (grainy, no viewing angle) screens and slow processors after all this time.

Nokia will still make phone models and seem to have got thier act together and released a reasonable few models now whereas they focused on a huge range of mediocre to cr4p phones beforehand.

I must say a better choice of CDMA handsets could be had, Pantech, LuckyGoldstar (LG) and Samsung CAN make good phones and I must admit compared to the likes of the 391, 361, 680, 415 of old, The new Samsung A920 blows even the nokia 6265 out of the water.

Pantech make some incredible phones but we have just not seen them, The TX95c was actually a good phone, large keys and fast moving, logical and simple menus.
The TX215c is just awful, smaller keypad that's incredibly hard to press, crappier screen and even uglier design. (the 115c was at least usable and had maginal appeal)
That LG, nice looking, nice keypad, acceptable screen, HORRID slow software.

The Crap phone days are finally over at Telecom, The manufacturers have a high standard to look at and the dept in charge of bringin in the handsets now does a much better job than before (different person?)

Why can we not bring in our handsets from overseas and just reflash or re-hash the phones? I have gotten many an overseas CDMA phone to talk to the network by plugging in a generic set of settings in the programming menu's but they bar the ESN's.



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  Reply # 39493 24-Jun-2006 11:49
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I'm just noting what was reported by Reuters on Thursday 22nd of June. Maybe they (and me) got a bit generous with our words.

Reuters - Nokia to stop making CDMA phones

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-06-22T164210Z_01_L22380187_RTRUKOC_0_US-NOKIA-CDMA.xml&archived=False

This is part of what Reuters reported:

Reuters - The Finnish company said on Thursday it would pull out of CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) phone manufacturing, which it sees as a shrinking market in the longer term. It will continue to offer Nokia-branded CDMA handsets, made by contract manufacturers, in North America where the standard is popular.

This is after the collapse of the Sanyo / Nokia talks reported on Thursday where Nokia said they would scale back CMDA production.

So, you'll still get Nokia CMDA badged phones, but probably not make by Nokia. AND they noted the focus was on North America and selected markets. Is New Zealand a selected market?

Anyway Qualcomm doesn't seem worried.

"Its not a surprise to us that Nokia is announcing it's stepping back from the CDMA business because I don't think they had that much success," Qualcomm Chief Financial Officer Bill Keitel told Reuters in an interview.

Nokia states in a press release on their own web site.
Nokia plans to ramp down its own CDMA R&D and manufacturing by April 2007.



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  Reply # 39645 26-Jun-2006 12:17
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there seems to be a lot of misinformation in the media about what's happening here, in fact the Herald has an article today which is based on speculation, but reported as fact...

either way, imho Nokia phones are crap... good advertising, crap phones...

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  Reply # 40045 29-Jun-2006 08:41
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Theres a piece on the technology page of stuff.co.nz this morning, basically saying Telecom will be under more pressure to build a w-cdma network due to Nokia stopping producing CDMA phones. Pretty much said handset sales for Telecom, 40% of them were Nokia.

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  Reply # 40047 29-Jun-2006 08:51
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Don't believe everything you read in the media.




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  Reply # 40048 29-Jun-2006 08:54
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especially in PC World, The Herald, The Line, The Dom...

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  Reply # 40053 29-Jun-2006 09:04
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Tom_Rush: I'm just noting what was reported by Reuters on Thursday 22nd of June. Maybe they (and me) got a bit generous with our words.

Reuters - Nokia to stop making CDMA phones

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-06-22T164210Z_01_L22380187_RTRUKOC_0_US-NOKIA-CDMA.xml&archived=False

This is part of what Reuters reported:

Reuters - The Finnish company said on Thursday it would pull out of CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) phone manufacturing, which it sees as a shrinking market in the longer term. It will continue to offer Nokia-branded CDMA handsets, made by contract manufacturers, in North America where the standard is popular.


Hmmm. What I read in the press releases, and that's why I didn't discuss much, because I thought everyone understood the same (here on Geekzone) is that was a decision to reduce the market for their CDMA devices and not to go ahead with the Sanyo CDMA business. From there to stop production they need another announcement...




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Reply # 40054 29-Jun-2006 09:09
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Nokia decides not to go ahead with Sanyo: http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1059331

Hmmm. The wording in this press release indicates closing CDMA business (T&D and manufacturing from 2007). That's what I understand by "ramp down" and "leverage its existing CDMA product development infastructure and assets (http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1059329)... Sounds as they are planning to sell it asap:

"Moving forward, Nokia intends to selectively participate in key CDMA markets, with special focus on North America. Nokia plans to ramp down its own CDMA R&D and manufacturing by April 2007. Nokia is evaluating opportunities to leverage its existing CDMA product development infrastructure and assets in profitable parts of the business."

So, yes, perhaps Nokia is pulling out of the CDMA business.







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  Reply # 40055 29-Jun-2006 09:12
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DjShadow: Theres a piece on the technology page of stuff.co.nz this morning, basically saying Telecom will be under more pressure to build a w-cdma network due to Nokia stopping producing CDMA phones. Pretty much said handset sales for Telecom, 40% of them were Nokia.

This kind of thing is just bad reporting. I'm sure we wont be seeing the end of Nokia CDMAs here, Sprint carry a few and theres a good chance Telecom could get them.
But saying that Telecom will have to switch networks because of this is just stupid. What happened to the days of journalistic integrity? The times when they got thing straight and didnt make up a whole lot of crap just to sell a story

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  Reply # 40059 29-Jun-2006 11:09
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Sensationalist reporting - not bad reporting.




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Reply # 40060 29-Jun-2006 11:27
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Well sensationalist reporting isn't good reporting

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  Reply # 40070 29-Jun-2006 12:51

freitasm: So, yes, perhaps Nokia is pulling out of the CDMA business.


They are pulling out, this is no secret. The media just published confusing articles about the situation, a lot of people misunderstood what is happening.




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