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Topic # 78082 26-Feb-2011 15:32
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From TIVO Australia;

As of 24th February 2011, your TiVo On-Screen Program Guide will now include "up-to-the-minute*" program times for Channel Nine instead of rounded half hour scheduling. Nine has recently started to provide this program data and we are passing on this benefit to our customers.
This means that from this date onwards every single Network that provides up-to-the-minute program times will now be incorporated into your On-Screen TV guide as part of your TiVo Service.  
Historically, all broadcaster(s) provided "rounded" times only and thus, the published times would usually display times to the nearest 1/2 hour (as an example). An "Up-to-the-minute" EPG displays the announced airtime (within 1 minute) of when the  broadcaster intends to air the scheduled program.  Actual air-times may still vary if the broadcaster has an unannounced program, re-schedule or cancellation (for example, in the event of breaking major news), but otherwise, your recording times will be much more reliable than they have been in the past.
The following networks: Seven, Nine, Ten & ABC will now all display scheduled program start and finish times that are "up-to-the-minute".
These more accurate program times should appear on your TiVo following a successful update connection to the TiVo service in the early hours of the 24th of February.
If your TiVo has not successfully connected to the TiVO Service during this time you can go to "TiVo Central">"Messages & Settings">"Settings">"Network"

>"Connect to the TiVo  Service Now" - simply by using your TiVo remote. This change will not affect your existing Season Passes or WishList Searches.
The TiVo Team

Will NZ get the "up to the minute" EPG too ?

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  Reply # 443674 26-Feb-2011 15:50
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Tonight saturday TV4 Buffy Vampire slayer, 9.35pm to 10.35pm. I think we already get to the minute guide data. The way I read it if it was aussie the time would be 9.30 to 10.30. Don't think it's talking about updating the guide once a minute, probably still once a day.

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  Reply # 443706 26-Feb-2011 19:38
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Freeview in Australia have started using CRID data in their EPG. This allows PVR's to record a show precisely when it starts and ends rather than just a usual timeslot. This CRID data is transmitted in the EIT table.

This change means that Tivo is now actually using OTA data for it's EPG which is a fundamental move away from being sourced solely from their own servers as a file.

I wonder if it will eventuallty mean Tivo move to MHEG5 as the primary EPG source?


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  Reply # 443722 26-Feb-2011 21:02
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I sure hope it comes here. i've noticed a few shows get snipped or have about 10 minutes of the previous show included in it!

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  Reply # 443798 27-Feb-2011 08:42
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snnet: I sure hope it comes here. i've noticed a few shows get snipped or have about 10 minutes of the previous show included in it!

For it to come here Freeview would need to broadcast the CRID data. The question should really be asked to Freeview and broadcasters on the Freeview platform, not Tivo.

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  Reply # 449984 20-Mar-2011 08:00
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i've emailed Freeview NZ and asked about Grid Data.
I'll let you know what they say and maby they will reply to this Thread.

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  Reply # 453945 31-Mar-2011 21:11
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Seems there Tecnology manager is currently away overseas.
but was told the Email has been forwared to him,
And will hear something back when he gets back..

Seems FreeView has been a little quiet of late but now there
posting to Facebook etc again.

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  Reply # 453958 31-Mar-2011 21:47
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snnet: I sure hope it comes here. i've noticed a few shows get snipped or have about 10 minutes of the previous show included in it!

Have a look at your settings, you can programme the TiVo to record longer then the actual show is scheduled to last for. Great if you want to make sure that you don't miss the ending but can give you problems if you want to record different shows which run one after the other. But then all systems have their limitations!

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  Reply # 455151 4-Apr-2011 16:27
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If it were well implemented, and you have two programs one on after the other on the same tuner, it should record two overlapping files. It's just a software limitation, not a hardware one.

ie program one finishes at 9pm and program 2 starts at 9pm

File one goes to 9:10 and file two starts at 8:55. They have all the necessary data coming in to be able to do that.

As it is, I need to not delete programs I have watched in case I need to save them to see the end or start of a program recorded concurrently.


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  Reply # 455617 5-Apr-2011 17:33
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Ok I've heard back from FreeView NZ

Here's what they had to say about it..

So i guess it cauld be possable that it will come later?
I hope so.

"Hi again Phillip,

My Technology Manager has returned and I passed on your query.

He explained to me that your query was about accurate recording, where recorders will start and stop exactly with the programmes instead of the scheduled times.

Freeview have tested for this functionality but the broadcasters have not yet implemented it.

I hope this answers your query satisfactorily.

Many thanks once again for your support of Freeview ? we really appreciate it.

Kind Regards

The Freeview Team "

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