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Topic # 90190 16-Sep-2011 12:40
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I have the home networkin package...
When i use convert x to dvd the file wont go in there


Plus the tivo files are  large and they seem to be just a media player file

is there anyway to conver them where I could put them on a dvd???


Thanks guys

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  Reply # 521912 16-Sep-2011 12:47
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Have you looked at KMTTG. Decrypts and converts .tivo files into other formats.
Have used it with some success, but with TiVo only connected to mac via wireless it is very slow to transfer. Very S L O W.

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Joseph

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  Reply # 523254 19-Sep-2011 21:07
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Erm, format shifting of video files is not legal in New Zealand. At this time, burning these files to disc is copyright infringement.



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  Reply # 523273 19-Sep-2011 21:46
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god what next !!!

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  Reply # 523279 19-Sep-2011 21:59
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The TiVo Desktop software format shifts (automatically too if you set it), I doubt it's much of a legal issue.
Anyways, I used my S1 TiVo to record a friend's wedding video (VHS) then converted to DVD using Handbrake then Corel DVD Movie Factory 7. It might work for TiVoHD, but I haven't ever bothered myself.
The other software people use for TiVoHD is Videoredo TVsuite which might be a step towards DVD format.

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  Reply # 523400 20-Sep-2011 09:35
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Yes, but using the Tivo software to format shift is something that is a licensed use (and probably only because it encodes into a format which has - yeech! - DRM). Burning the files to a disc however is not legal here.

Remember, it's technically not legal to tape off the TV at all. You can only tape for the purposes of time-shifting, and after you've watched it you're required to delete it.



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  Reply # 523405 20-Sep-2011 09:48
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Kynar people have been taping off tv for 20 years plus

who are you the conversion police 

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  Reply # 523411 20-Sep-2011 10:09
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Kyanar: Remember, it's technically not legal to tape off the TV at all. You can only tape for the purposes of time-shifting, and after you've watched it you're required to delete it.


You contradict yourself here, first you say it's not legal to tape off the TV at all and then you say you can only tape for the purposes of time-shifting.

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  Reply # 523419 20-Sep-2011 10:26
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Format shifting of video is illegal in NZ.

Time shifting of video content is legal, providing the content is only kept for a period of time allowing the content to be watched.

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  Reply # 523522 20-Sep-2011 13:54
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sbiddle: Format shifting of video is illegal in NZ.

Time shifting of video content is legal, providing the content is only kept for a period of time allowing the content to be watched.


Unfortunately I may not get around to watching it for a couple of years!

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  Reply # 523761 20-Sep-2011 21:06
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sbiddle: Format shifting of video is illegal in NZ.

Time shifting of video content is legal, providing the content is only kept for a period of time allowing the content to be watched.


Is there a legal definition of format shifting? What if your DVR internally converts the H.264 stream to another codec, say to save space? What if it stores the content on an external drive (like the TiVoHD expansion drive)? I have a feeling this has probably been discussed on these forums before...

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  Reply # 523788 20-Sep-2011 22:01
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Kyanar: Erm, format shifting of video files is not legal in New Zealand. At this time, burning these files to disc is copyright infringement.


However, somehow I suspect that it's not necessary for every NZer who has ever video taped a TV show and watched the tape more than once to be quaking in their boots with fear.

How is burning a Tivo recording of a TV show to disk different from burning a DVD of a TV show using a DVD recorder? I doubt the Police are raiding anyone who has purchased one of those either to haul them off to jail.

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  Reply # 523886 21-Sep-2011 09:20
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This is definitely a case for lmgtfy. TiVo has been around for years overseas. I imagine that any questions you might have regarding TiVo have been answered hundreds of times over by now.

A basic outline of the process:

- You need to use TiVo's DRM DLL (part of their home computer software) to remove the copy protection and unlock the raw MPEG file.
- You need to import the raw MPEG file into pretty much any DVD authoring software. You may want to use this opportunity to remove any advertisements or cut credits etc...
- You need to burn the resulting DVD compliant MPEG stream to a blank disc.
- Alternatively you should use the x264 encoder to compress the MPEG stream and mux it into a Matroska container file for playback on most computers.

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