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nathan

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#99099 12-Mar-2012 21:27

has anyone found a workaround for this craziness?

Say I want to record tv2 at 8pm and then another programme on tv2 at 830pm

what seems to happen is that it will use both tunes to record those programmes, even though they are back to back

So I can't watch something else on another channel, nor record another channel

Any workarounds?

Thanks
Nathan

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#594341 12-Mar-2012 21:32

Set the first to record with enough extra time to cover the second program?

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#594343 12-Mar-2012 21:36

then I need to think

and it doesn't pass the WAF test

On Windows Media Centre for example it would just use one tuner to record both back to back, leaving the other tuner free, but save 2 different files/programmes

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#594346 12-Mar-2012 21:40

Is the first set to record longer than the end time, and the second set to start recording early?

Not had the problem. We have 3 TiVo units. Might be handy to find a solution though.

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#594366 12-Mar-2012 22:16

nathan: then I need to think
and it doesn't pass the WAF test

Haha it makes my wife furious. Am going to hack the TiVo this week to install EndPadPlus. Will let you know if it solves this problem.
Perhaps it's time we pestered HybridTV/TiVo again for a proper software fix for this.

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#594420 13-Mar-2012 00:30

Yep I am constantly changing scheduled recordings to finish on time instead of extended, so next program starts on time!
Does seem like something that could be fixed by a software update.

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#594426 13-Mar-2012 05:47

most likely the autoextend of recordings is set on, it may be set to finish 2 mins later, as the 1st tuner is still busy until 8.32, the 2nd tuner starts recording at 8.30

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#594446 13-Mar-2012 08:30

Back to back recordings will use the same tuner unless auto extend of recordings is on. Then there will be overlap, and so the other tuner needs to be used.

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#594453 13-Mar-2012 08:50

gregmcc: most likely the autoextend of recordings is set on, it may be set to finish 2 mins later, as the 1st tuner is still busy until 8.32, the 2nd tuner starts recording at 8.30

Yes, but the point is, why can't the one tuner be used to record to two files at once, or at least intelligently remove the autoextend on shows that are being recorded back-to-back on the same channel. The is an option for clipping overlapping shows, but doesn't work with autoextend.

I brought this to the attention of HybridTV a couple of years ago.

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#594475 13-Mar-2012 09:36

Very few of the non HTPC based devices handle the back to back recordings well. It should take just one tuner, and the overlap period should be written to both files.

The freeview official JC Matthew box I had didn't do this right either, and you forever had the start of the second program on the end of the first programs file. Delete the first program and you've lost the start of the second program. It's just plain stupid and slack on the programmers/companies part, full stop. Unfortunate to see it's like that on the TIVO, they've had enough experience in this game to have sorted that I would have thought.

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#594476 13-Mar-2012 09:38

As mentioned, this could definitely be fixed with a software update. Personally I'd be very happy to see it sorted out :)

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#594478 13-Mar-2012 09:42

Behodar: this could definitely be fixed with a software update. Personally I'd be very happy to see it sorted out :)

+1

Has anyone put this to TIVO?

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#594480 13-Mar-2012 09:47

Thank God for MySky

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#594485 13-Mar-2012 10:07

jofizz: Yep I am constantly changing scheduled recordings to finish on time instead of extended, so next program starts on time!
Does seem like something that could be fixed by a software update.

Cheers,
Joseph

I have noticed lately that a lot of shows on the main FTA channels have no break in between shows so if you are recoding B2B shows you will find yourself having to find the start of the second programme at the end of the first as they are unlikely to stop and start in the 1 minute credits window.

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#596128 16-Mar-2012 14:36

"has anyone found a workaround for this craziness?
Say I want to record tv2 at 8pm and then another programme on tv2 at 830pm
what seems to happen is that it will use both tunes to record those programmes, even though they are back to back
So I can't watch something else on another channel, nor record another channel
Any workarounds?

Thanks
Nathan"

I haven't had this problem, but have a plug-in splitter ($~14) at the wall, so the TiVo and the TV have their own aerial connection.
That way if TiVo happens to be busy on both tuners I can just watch another channel on the TV and it's not really an issue. Obviously you still can't record a different channel in the overlap period.

I agree it could be fixed via software, but for the price of a TiVo unit wasn't too much of a concern.

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#596460 17-Mar-2012 12:58

Unfortunately, Robbie, this won't help someone whose only Freeview receivers are the two in their TiVo.

Personally I no longer watch anything live, but here's a rather clutsy workaround for those stuck.

Of the back to back programmes, set the first with no extended record time option and the second with no advanced start time.
Now set up a 5 minute manual recording at your crossover time, on the channel you wish to watch live and with a "keep" time set to 1 day. You can set this as a recurring event (weekly or whatever) if this applies to you.
Now the second tuner should stay on the channel you want to watch.
Messy but should work.