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rayonline

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#133561 26-Oct-2013 16:02
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I did a 3hr shoot they got married last week in CHCH and now here just some speeches without the I do stuff, 1hr service and 2hr lunch next door at the church's kitchen at a suburban church. 

How do you guys do candid when people are on red alert when you silently get behind them and they won't let their guard down. 

Also in our instance, the service is all inside then they wanted the group shots taken inside the church before they head out to the lunch next door, 2min setup at the front stage inside the church bam bam bam like 9 sets of photograph and then everyone bundled into the building next door for a light lunch 2hr of that and then it was home time.  So with even a 2.8 the background was messy, kids stuck into their circles like american football timeouts  there were also no tables during lunch it was just a large long table down the room self serving and chairs on the side of the room. 

Very informal I know.  If it was you pro's what would you have done?  For the group shots I switched from 2 shoothru brollies to 1 reflective brolly but in hindsight I think I shoulda just went for a single hotshoe flash.  Also the church's ceiling is like 4 levels high and it was all brown timber same goes with the extreme left and white walls.  They already had a pro who did the photo's beside the lake at Tekapo and/or Wanaka and they had the first marriage ceremony last Saturday last week. 

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  #922259 26-Oct-2013 22:55
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I'm just back from a 12 hour wedding... you post is a little jumbled but I'll take a crack.

First up, budget/quick weddings are tough. Really tough. The venues aren't as nice, people aren't as well prepared, you get less respect, etc. So the cheaper and faster it is, the more difficult it is to do a good job. The better you get, the more you charge, the nicer the venues and the clothes, the easier it gets. Expectations go up a lot too, of course.

Not really sure what you mean about backgrounds and kids and american football. If 2.8 doesn't isolate enough try maximum zoom 2.8, then a fast prime or lighting. Or what I'd do is I'd choose a different background. Once you can show good work and people are paying thousands they tend to trust you and your opinion more, and you get a lot more leeway to change things.

In a church even for family formals I often just shoot ambient. I've done the whole studio strobe through an umbrella thing, multiple strobes, but honestly even with mixed lighting ambient is often good enough. I took some at ISO3200 once, they printed great - D700 cameras.

Hope that helps. If you can make your questions a bit more descriptive and precise I may able to help more.



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  #922261 26-Oct-2013 23:05
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It was just a friend's wedding. They got married last week but this was just a session for friends here .... they are not looking for prints I think maybe just a few 6x4s etc .. and some emailed.

What I mean is that if they were outside you have the kids running around in diff areas so you could take a shot easier. When they were inside - imagine a long room tables in the centre for food self serving and chairs against the side of the room - between the chairs to the table is maybe 2.5m? In total it was a 1hr service and next door in that room 2hr lunch. Plus you have 100-200 people all there.  So there wasn't much room to move around too other than walking zig zag.  Many of whom were standing, eating, chatting etc.

I am not worried about the output but wondered what you would do in that instance .....

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  #922263 26-Oct-2013 23:22
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I wouldn't take photos there, I'd move people somewhere nicer for photos.

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