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#73321 11-Dec-2010 18:27
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Hey guys anyone know what the laws for having security cameras around your home are?

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  #415935 11-Dec-2010 18:40
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Don't think there are any? I never bothered to look into it when putting them in here or at any of the families places.




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  #415943 11-Dec-2010 19:08
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DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer of any kind

I think you're pretty much free to surveil any part of your own property but you might get unstuck pointing cameras in any area where neighbouring properties are concerned.

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  #416105 12-Dec-2010 12:12
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Oh and not in showers, toilets or anywhere that their should be a reasonable expectation of privacy. Otherwise go nuts, just don't go for some really cheap LED ones off trademe.



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  #416109 12-Dec-2010 12:26
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Disrespective: DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer of any kind

I think you're pretty much free to surveil any part of your own property but you might get unstuck pointing cameras in any area where neighbouring properties are concerned.



IANAL but I think that's the main one. You cannot be pointing it at your neighbours, or even onto the street front.

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  #417508 15-Dec-2010 10:35
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rscole86:
Disrespective: DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer of any kind

I think you're pretty much free to surveil any part of your own property but you might get unstuck pointing cameras in any area where neighbouring properties are concerned.




IANAL but I think that's the main one. You cannot be pointing it at your neighbours, or even onto the street front.


Dunno about that, I have seen a few in the well to do suburbs with professionally installed cameras that are pointing out towards the footpath and road frontage, covering the driveway access. But definitely angled to cover a bit more than that :-)

Was a bit surprised, because, like you, I thought that you could not survey public places

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  #417598 15-Dec-2010 13:15
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Without knowing what angle lens is on a camera is impossible to know what it is covering.

If the council and LTNZ can have streaming webcams of public spaces why cant I? Theres no signs on the motorway you are on camera, neither for most of the city.

I know you can get into trouble if you put a sign up about CCTV operating when it isnt, since you are promoting security that you dont have, which is why all the signs say that they "may be operating"




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  #417700 15-Dec-2010 15:35
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SepticSceptic:
rscole86:
Disrespective: DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer of any kind

I think you're pretty much free to surveil any part of your own property but you might get unstuck pointing cameras in any area where neighbouring properties are concerned.




IANAL but I think that's the main one. You cannot be pointing it at your neighbours, or even onto the street front.


Dunno about that, I have seen a few in the well to do suburbs with professionally installed cameras that are pointing out towards the footpath and road frontage, covering the driveway access. But definitely angled to cover a bit more than that :-)

Was a bit surprised, because, like you, I thought that you could not survey public places


google was able to survey the entire country no problem.  they blanked out numbers and faces etc - not sure if that was a legal requirement here.

taking pictures of someone in the street and publishing must be enitrely legal - otherwise we wouldnt have any gossip mags...  in the US they use zoom lenses to capture celebrities in their back yards - i think that might not be allowed here.

what is th difference between motion video and still images wrt/ privacy?  if there was a difference, what about motion jpeg where the motion video is really just a series of still pictures?





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  #425198 8-Jan-2011 13:42
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richms: Theres no signs on the motorway you are on camera, neither for most of the city.

"Speed Camera Area" 







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  #425208 8-Jan-2011 14:37
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tonyhughes:
"Speed Camera Area" 


Not been there for years, and were part of the legislation that used to require them to announce areas where they were targeting speed before speed cameras became a purely revenue gathering machine.




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  #425209 8-Jan-2011 14:40
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richms: Without knowing what angle lens is on a camera is impossible to know what it is covering.

If the council and LTNZ can have streaming webcams of public spaces why cant I? Theres no signs on the motorway you are on camera, neither for most of the city.



Unless things have changed in the last year no traffic cameras in NZ are recorded. This is a key difference.



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  #425211 8-Jan-2011 14:43
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That kinda makes having them a waste of time then. they would have to try to catch the regos of idiots in realtime etc.

Also, if its streaming, it can be recorded by anyone.




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  #425213 8-Jan-2011 15:12
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theres no law that stops you filming or taking photos in a public place, its what you do with them that can be a problem, think of all those police programs, you see the person trying to stop being filmed and been told they cant because they are in public, but you can stop it been broadcast which is why you see blurry faces now and again




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