Gmail signing-in via YouTube..?

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Topic # 91714 19-Oct-2011 19:42

Hi Geeks,

I ask out of curiosity rather than any genuine concern...

The last couple weeks upon signing-in in to my Gmail the URL spins over to youtube.com before switching back to the Gmail inbox. Any idea why?

I don't have a YouTube account. Though I suppose having a Gmail address means I automatically do..? What else do I have automatic account access by virtue of my Gmail account..?

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Reply # 535325 19-Oct-2011 19:59

Actually noticed mine do that today

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Reply # 535326 19-Oct-2011 20:03

All gmail accounts (or Google accounts) are also YouTube accounts - since YouTube is part of Google.

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Reply # 535330 19-Oct-2011 20:19

Which browsers are you guys using? same with all browsers?

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Reply # 535331 19-Oct-2011 20:33

Ive noticed the same for at least a month - never got around to asking!

Happens in to me in Firefox on Mac & Win

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Reply # 535335 19-Oct-2011 20:48

Noticed it too, all owned by Google and link together anyway....

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Reply # 535337 19-Oct-2011 20:51

xpd: Noticed it too, all owned by Google and link together anyway....

Yeah, was never a huge bother, but noticed in chrome

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Reply # 535346 19-Oct-2011 21:19

They had something that became a problem where users would sign out of gmail, but were not signed out of youtube automatically. That was fixed, but maybe the new change resolves some down stream effects of that maybe like checking if you are logged in youtube first with a different id.

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Reply # 535360 19-Oct-2011 22:05

I tried to upload a video to youtube the other day and it told me I needed to use a gmail login. I don't have gmail

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Reply # 535363 19-Oct-2011 22:15

Use your email address as your Google Account. All Gmail are automatically Google Account. Aside from YouTube, there's Vimeo as well.

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Reply # 535388 19-Oct-2011 23:43

I am quite sure it has something to do with signing in/out over multiple domains and cross domain cookie security.

e.g.
mail.google.com, docs.google.com, www.google.com and google.com can all modify each others cookies as its the same domain (depending on the way the cookies are created)
www.google.com/google.com cannot modify www.youtube.com/youtube.com cookies

The reasoning behind this is you would not, say, want another tab accessing your banking websites cookies or gmail cookies. So the way they circumvent this is to send you to both a google.com domain and a youtube.com domain.

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Reply # 535517 20-Oct-2011 11:15

A reasonable explanation...

Perhaps Google do it to all Gmail users on the basis that many users will also actively use YouTube..?

I visit YouTube but I do not intentionally sign-in. I crossed over to YouTube from my Gmail and found that I was logged-in to YouTube already. However, YouTube still required me to create a pseudonym before I could interact with the website, i.e. comment, upload, etc., (which have not done).

I use Firefox 7.0.1 (this number race is getting silly -- shouldn't we still be at Firefox 4-ish?).

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Reply # 535549 20-Oct-2011 12:05

Yes this is cross domain single sign on.

If you go to www.google.co.nz then click sign in.. you sign in at accounts.google.com creating a cookie for that domain then it redirects you to youtube.com and google.co.nz to create cookies for those too.

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Reply # 535559 20-Oct-2011 12:14

spagbowl: A reasonable explanation...

Perhaps Google do it to all Gmail users on the basis that many users will also actively use YouTube..?

I visit YouTube but I do not intentionally sign-in. I crossed over to YouTube from my Gmail and found that I was logged-in to YouTube already. However, YouTube still required me to create a pseudonym before I could interact with the website, i.e. comment, upload, etc., (which have not done).

I use Firefox 7.0.1 (this number race is getting silly -- shouldn't we still be at Firefox 4-ish?).

Firefox have adopted a Google Chrome style rapid release process, new version every 6 weeks.

Basically version number doesn't really matter, new stuff/fixes every 6 weeks. I hope they improve their updating system make it more like Google Chrome's where is just updates itself behind the scenes without disturbing you.

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Reply # 535562 20-Oct-2011 12:23

Understood. Upon signing-in to Gmail I am automatically signed-in to all other Google services.

I navigated to accounts.google.com and clicked on 'Dashboard' -- it showed me all the Google services I do/don't use.

Under YouTube my e-mail address was displayed with no way to remove it. I only utilise Gmail so all privacy settings are set-up to full. I don't like Google automatically giving the user a profile and making that user manually opt-out... but such is the way of the online world I guess.

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Reply # 535565 20-Oct-2011 12:27

I discovered this if anyone is inclined:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/privacy/privacy-policy.html

It seems the 'Dashboard' feature was specifically created so users could adduce how much personal information is publicly available.