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#2822571 1-Dec-2021 14:22

alasta:

I had a dishdrawer supplied with my new build and I hate it. A few days ago I opened it to retrieve some clean items and it started running a cycle uncommanded as soon as I closed it - I assume there might have been a drop of moisture on the 'start' button. The problem is that the control panel is inside it, so there is no way to interrupt it when it starts a cycle and locks the door.

Terrible design in my opinion.

Which make?

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#2822573 1-Dec-2021 14:28

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alasta:

I had a dishdrawer supplied with my new build and I hate it. A few days ago I opened it to retrieve some clean items and it started running a cycle uncommanded as soon as I closed it - I assume there might have been a drop of moisture on the 'start' button. The problem is that the control panel is inside it, so there is no way to interrupt it when it starts a cycle and locks the door.

Terrible design in my opinion.

Which make?

It's an F&P. Do other manufacturers make dishdrawers?

If so then that would be a relief because it's the only type of dishwasher that could be installed in my joinery.

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#2822661 1-Dec-2021 16:30

alasta:

It's an F&P. Do other manufacturers make dishdrawers?

If so then that would be a relief because it's the only type of dishwasher that could be installed in my joinery.

I am fairly confident that F&P are the only ones. Patented and all that. Shame as I would be interested to see what innovations other manufacturers would come up with in the same form factor.

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#2822664 1-Dec-2021 16:36

Midea and Robinhood also make dishdrawers.

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#2822736 1-Dec-2021 20:22

alasta:
I had a dishdrawer supplied with my new build and I hate it. A few days ago I opened it to retrieve some clean items and it started running a cycle uncommanded as soon as I closed it - I assume there might have been a drop of moisture on the 'start' button. The problem is that the control panel is inside it, so there is no way to interrupt it when it starts a cycle and locks the door.

Terrible design in my opinion.

Which model? The manual for mine mentions that the dish drawers that have the flush and matching faces have a remote that you can mount on a wall somewhere.

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

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#2822747 1-Dec-2021 21:14

MadEngineer:

Which model? The manual for mine mentions that the dish drawers that have the flush and matching faces have a remote that you can mount on a wall somewhere.

Apparently it's a DD60ST19.

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#2822752 1-Dec-2021 21:26

+1 for Bosh Serie 6

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#2822840 2-Dec-2021 00:56

We have a Bosch SMS50E32AV/03 from 2012. Despite my objections, we got the cheaper model made in Turkey rather than the one recommended by Consumer NZ made in Germany. It does a good job of cleaning, but the drying is a problem. I had to turn on a special option to get it to dry reasonably well - I suspect the default option is to make it appear more eco friendly, but wet dishes do not make for a happy customer. On hot settings (70C or 65C heavy duty cycles) the drying is better but on the standard 45C cycle it is just ok - there is always something that needs manual drying. So I would recommend getting a better model made in Germany. Two previous F&P dishwashers dried better, but were worse at cleaning, but that may be just the better performance of the newer detergent tablets. Of the three, my preferred one is the first F&P we got back in 1975. But that was fairly noisy.

But even better than that is my old AEG I have in my Lower Hutt flat - it is quiet, washes and dries well and has a mechanical timer so it is likely to last as long as our 1975 F&P did. Modern electronic controls are often the thing that breaks first, usually just after there are no spare parts available any more. And the cost of replacing them if spares are available is usually over half the cost of a new machine - no repairs available.

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#2822841 2-Dec-2021 01:01

James Bond:

Thanks for the replies team!!

scuwp:

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but we love our FP Dish-drawers. Being able to run separate cycles at the same time, having one going while loading another, makes managing dishes and keeping the kitchen tidy so much easier. We have a couple of them at work also and they get a hammering, easily 10+ years old now. I can't imagine replacing ours with anything else when the time comes.

I have used one at a NFP for the last few years and found them good. I personally never had issues with F&P but I still prefer Bosch or Miele.

WE had an F&P standalone dishwasher about 5-10 years ago and the drying was terrible, as everything came out wet. I would rate Miele, and then Bosch having owned both.

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#2824831 6-Dec-2021 00:09

My last Bosch dishwasher worked very well for 10+ years before I moved house (and was still working when I sold the house), so I put a Serie 8 fully integrated model (German made) into my current house.

It works extremely well, and is virtually silent. As an added bonus, it projects the remaining cycle time onto the floor, which is often the only way you would know it’s doing anything. It was a bit pricey, but I would recommend it.

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#2824833 6-Dec-2021 00:23

The house I bought came with a brand new Belling dishwasher that failed after a year and a half - this thing smelled of burning plastic every time we turned it on and dishes never cleaned well (I honestly thought it was my partner loading it wrong, but experienced it myself).

I ended up buying a Bosch Serie 6 like many others here and it has to be seriously the best dishwasher I've ever had. It is silent, cleans incredibly well and the cutlery drawer is just awesome. I actually went off Consumer ratings for when I was shopping around and have zero regrets in doing so.

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#2824835 6-Dec-2021 01:35

I own 2 Bosch/Siemens dishwashers. My Turkish made one here is good and my tenants like the series 6 in the rental.

I had an LG direct drive previously and it was excellent.

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#2824837 6-Dec-2021 05:43

A lot of plastic kitchenware is poorly designed for dishwasher cleaning. You invert the item to clean it and the base has a recess that holds water causing a drying problem. Metal pots etc usually have a flush surface underneath. Often it's possible to add a drain hole to stop water collecting. Now the problem is usually a small container that flips over in the wash.

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#2824845 6-Dec-2021 07:56

Thanks team - I think we're fairly set on Bosch. Miele also an option if the price is right.

The plan is to wait for the Boxing Day/NY sales and buy it then.

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#2824857 6-Dec-2021 08:56

Sucks your dishwasher is playing up, did you check if it was possible to repair the control panel? seems silly to replace the whole thing just because the control panel broke!

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