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tweake
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  #3457454 31-Jan-2026 11:34
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pdh:

 

Meant to mention two additional ways to make the wood-burner more efficient:

 

(a) Use an 'Eco' or 'Heatsaver' flue kit - that cools the attic flue casing using air drawn from the attic space - & not your lounge.
This is a worthwhile thing to spec (over a standard flue kit) - at not much extra cost.

(b) Firenzo's optional 'Outside Air Adaptor' kit that ducts outdoor air into the firebox works well.
If you are heating the space with another heat source (we have a geo-exchange heat pump and hydronic heat) then it makes even more sense.
You're not constantly removing warm air from the area around your wood-burner.
But burning cold air drawn immediately from the outside into the firebox.

 

As I have the Firenzo in the centre of an open-plan living/dining/TV area, I used some 4" plastic plumbing pipe to duct air from the rear wall of the house (about 7 m) and up through the floor - to then attach to Firenzo's metal duct kit. IOW the plastic pipe bringing in cold air is below the floor and thermally safe from the heat of the fireplace. Down below, it runs across the ceiling of a workshop - but it could go in a ceiling cavity. I would say that it draws better (when starting a fire) than if I was just pulling air from the lounge.

 

For any of you who read the Jean Auel (Clan of the Cave Bear) books - that was a prehistoric trick used in longhouses.

 

 

just be aware that there is fireplaces with FAKE outside air setups. you need to check the actual fireplace that the air intake is sealed all the way into the fire. some put fake plate on the back and call it an outside air intake. the fake ones take room air and you have a hole in the wall/floor to refill the room with air. but that makes the room super drafty even when your not using the fireplace. a proper one makes the fireplace completely sealed from the house.

 

also its not uncommon for ash to get blown back down the air intake. so make sure you use materials that can handle embers and you are able to get in and clean it.




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  #3457455 31-Jan-2026 11:42
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JayADee:

 

We’ve got the heat saver flue kit and a heat exchanger inlet near the wood burner that pushes the warm air to the back of the house. House has been more evenly so much warmer with this set up.

 

 

heat transfer systems can work ok if installed correctly.

 

catch is many are not and i've only ever seen one manufacture have correct install instructions.  they make it cheaper by ignoring the air returns. but with no air return it creates low pressure in the living room causing the fire to backdraft, and fill the house with smoke. that can be dangerous for obvious reasons.  there has a been a few cases in the media of this happening.


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  #3457472 31-Jan-2026 14:30
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Wheelbarrow01:

 

Seriously outdated thinking. My Masport ULEB log burner - one of the first to come on the market a decade ago - produces minor smoke for 5-10 minutes upon startup, but after that it produces no smoke, no smell, and a mere 0.3 grams of carbon emissions per kg of wood burnt (This number was calculated and verified in the CM1 lab test by Environment Canterbury - the most stringent council in the country from whom most other council emission limits are derived nationwide). 

 

I maybe burn 2kg per hour (so 0.6g emitted). To put that in context, a 2025 Toyota Corolla hybrid produces 85 grams per km or 8.5kg per hour when travelling at 100kph. That's approximately 14,000 times more carbon emissions coming out of that car in one hour than what is coming out of my flue. A V6 Ford Ranger would be 45,000 times more.....

 

Maybe we should ban a single Ford Ranger from the road and then we could replace it with 44,999 ULEB log burners and still release fewer emissions than that one ute. Heck, even the manufacture of a single 500ml Coke bottle is estimated to emit 85-94 grams of CO2 according to Professor Google.

 

 

I don’t understand how those numbers can possibly be correct; where is the carbon content of the wood going off it’s not out of the flue?

 

I think you may be comparing carbon particulate emission of the fire with carbon dioxide emission of the car. I’m sure the fire does a very good job of converting carbon to carbon dioxide, but it still has to emit the carbon somehow


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