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Paul1977
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  #2118468 2-Nov-2018 12:17
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geocom:While yes you have to stick your finger onto the contact while inserting or removing it with the light switch on(if it is a smart bulb the chances of you forgetting what switch goes where increases as you wont be using the switch very often if ever)

 

 

Off topic, but this reminded me of a question I had but have never gotten around to asking.

 

I have fitted Philips Hue bulbs into a couple of my rooms, and got the optional wireless dimmer switches for those rooms.

 

The issue is, I hate having the original switch (which always needs to be left on) AND with the Hue dimmer switch. I just want one.

 

Is it legal to remove the old switch and use an electrical joiner to make the fittings permanently powered on, then I could just put the Hue dimmer switch over the hole where the joiner now resides?

 

I own my own home, and for changing bulbs etc I could still turn the power to the lights off at the main board. But I'm unsure if I legally require a physical switch in the room that cuts power to the fixture.




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  #2118583 2-Nov-2018 14:47
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Bung:
Rikkitic:

 

It's already 50-50. Almost any lamp you buy is Edison. The fittings are all bayonet. That is why I trying to standardise on Edison so I don't have to keep buying two kinds of light bulbs. I think Edison is the future. Only Oz and us insist on using these stupid bayonet fittings.

 

 

 

 

 



I don't know why you are so fond of Edison bulbs. I use them but find they inevitably jam in the fittings.

 

Never had an Edison jam in the base but have had a few bayonet ones weld  to the fittings over the years. 





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  #2118605 2-Nov-2018 15:09
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Paul1977:

 

I own my own home, and for changing bulbs etc I could still turn the power to the lights off at the main board. But I'm unsure if I legally require a physical switch in the room that cuts power to the fixture.

 

 

I don't know (others will) but I think not. The switch also acts as a kind of safety device, as in when your kid climbs a ladder and sticks a finger in the socket and starts smoking, you can immediately cut the power without having to shift years of stuff from the closet to get at the circuit breaker.

 

 





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  #2118626 2-Nov-2018 15:48
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I've put blank plates in place of some of mine to stop people turning them.




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  #2118675 2-Nov-2018 17:12
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richms: I've put blank plates in place of some of mine to stop people turning them.

 

But you would have to remove the switch in order to put a blank over it right?


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  #2118695 2-Nov-2018 17:34
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There are no requirements to have an isolator for lighting. Also, things like push-button dimmers without a switch don't provide isolation.


 
 
 

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  #2118728 2-Nov-2018 20:19
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Paul1977:

 

richms: I've put blank plates in place of some of mine to stop people turning them.

 

But you would have to remove the switch in order to put a blank over it right?

 

 

In one of them I just popped it out of the plate and left it in behind the plate. I have the wall holder for the milight/limitless remotes stuck to the cover of the blank plate as I got one where the whole clip on cover was removable rather than just the surround like the cheapies at bunnings. I think it was a PDL blank plate - just picked it off the shelf in at russells.





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  #2118796 2-Nov-2018 22:42
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SomeoneSomewhere:

There are no requirements to have an isolator for lighting. Also, things like push-button dimmers without a switch don't provide isolation.



It's dangerous to regard the light switch as isolation. My BiL had never heard of 3 plate wiring where the phase terminates at the fitting rather than the switch. Thinking that everything was off because the light switch was off nearly killed him.

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  #2119203 3-Nov-2018 17:02
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Bung:
SomeoneSomewhere:

There are no requirements to have an isolator for lighting. Also, things like push-button dimmers without a switch don't provide isolation.



It's dangerous to regard the light switch as isolation. My BiL had never heard of 3 plate wiring where the phase terminates at the fitting rather than the switch. Thinking that everything was off because the light switch was off nearly killed him.


I can see that it is more dangerous, but we have no children and no one but me will ever be taking bulbs out. So I was more interested in the legality of whether it was allowed - and sounds like it is, so I’m happy to proceed and have no isolation.

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