E27 light socket?

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Topic # 242507 31-Oct-2018 21:13

Just a quick question... Can you not buy e27 ceiling light sockets, battens, fittings or whatever they are called in NZ? I was just looking to see in theory if could change all our bayonet fittings to them, there's like 10 lights in our house. I was daydreaming about having all our lights as smart bulbs and most brands and what not are e27 it seems.

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Reply # 2117606 31-Oct-2018 21:46

Yes you can, bunnings sell some.

Non standard shade ring size tho, so nothing will fit on them.

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Reply # 2117744 1-Nov-2018 10:54

Cheers for that. Managed to find them on the Bunnings website, seems weird they don't seem more available. You don't know if you can wire these up yourself do you? And do you mean shades etc sold locally won't fit?

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Reply # 2117793 1-Nov-2018 12:32

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I had a poke around the local Bunnings and Mitre 10 - didn't see any E27's at all. I was planning to swap a few bayonet fittings to fit Philips Hue.

Plenty of stand-alone lamps and lamp fittings seem to use E27's and plenty of replacement Led lamps and incandescent lamps with E27 screws. Just doesn't seem to be any E27 fittings available.

Time to harass a local electrical distributor.

And yes, you can wire these yourself, as a replacement. Usual electrical hazardous rules apply.

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Reply # 2117823 1-Nov-2018 13:09

SepticSceptic:

I had a poke around the local Bunnings and Mitre 10 - didn't see any E27's at all. I was planning to swap a few bayonet fittings to fit Philips Hue.

You can get Philips Hue bulbs with bayonet fittings.

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Reply # 2117831 1-Nov-2018 13:19

I think we do need to harass a distributor... I would get Hue bayonets today if I could afford them.. hue are the most expensive ones out there

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Reply # 2117841 1-Nov-2018 13:42

You can get E27 to B22 adapters, but they do add a little length to the bulb so if that's not a problem then it's a cheap option.

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Reply # 2117849 1-Nov-2018 14:11

Quick google http://www.detaelectrical.com.au/detail-2/?de=6407B

There is a nz number on the contact page

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Reply # 2117859 1-Nov-2018 14:31

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I couldn't believe Edison fittings were not widely available here. I'm pretty sure they used to be, though that may be a false memory.

Anyway, this is something that concerns me as I have been gradually moving over to E27 at home. So I took a look and indeed it is almost impossible to find anything, and what little is available is ridiculously, idiotically, insultingly overpriced. I don't know what is wrong with this country.

I did find the odd item, but very little and poor value for money. Your best bet by far is to go overseas. This has everything New Zealand does not, at a fraction of the cost. Because New Zealand is a bit silly about these things, I'm not sure if there would be issues importing electrical fittings or whether there could later be insurance consequences. Admittedly a lot of flimsy crap comes out of China, some of it genuinely unsafe (which seems to get through without any problem) but an Edison light fitting is the simplest thing in the world and I think it would be pretty hard to kill someone with one. They are incredibly cheap so I would just buy some and inspect them after they arrive. Let common sense be your guide. Battens will be ceramic or plastic (if cheap). The plastic ones are probably the same as everywhere, no different from the comparable bayonet fittings that can be found here. As long as the plastic doesn't crumble in your hands, it is probably fine. Cheap plastic might be more vulnerable to heat damage but with modern lights that shouldn't be an issue. The screw terminals need to tighten properly without stripping or breaking. There should be adequate clearance between the power contact at the base of the fitting and the contact at the side (if the screw-in part isn't metal). It is unlikely these could ever come into contact with each other. Normally it doesn't matter much which wire goes where on a light fitting, but if you want to be absolutely sure, make certain the phase wire connects to the base. You should be able to see which terminal goes where.

If you're worried about the Chinese, Ebay also has a good selection for normal prices and I'm sure any of their stuff would meet legal requirements since they are also in Australia.

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Reply # 2117902 1-Nov-2018 15:02

PDL make them

http://www.pdl.co.nz/Trade/Products/ProductDetail?CatNo=530ES

Any Electrical wholesaler should be able to get them for you - if they don'y have them in stock.

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Reply # 2117943 1-Nov-2018 15:11

I see them list here at Bunnings for $7.49 each https://www.bunnings.co.nz/deta-e27-edison-lamp-batten-holder_p00310034

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Reply # 2117948 1-Nov-2018 15:23

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Heh we just replaced a bunch with integrated LED's you are welcome to if you want to collect them in Auckland :)

130mm rim.

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Reply # 2118006 1-Nov-2018 17:53

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paulgp:

You can get E27 to B22 adapters, but they do add a little length to the bulb so if that's not a problem then it's a cheap option.

The issue with those is they could very well give you or someone else a nasty zap.

B22 allows for either pin to be phase or neutral where as E27 the back pin is phase and the screw is neutral. An adapter does not stop the phase(230v) from being on the screw portion(which can be touched) if this happens and you or someone else touch the screw portion when the screw section is live, well lets just say it will be a bad day.

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Reply # 2118081 1-Nov-2018 20:21

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Yeah I would of thought Edison fittings were a readily available option here... Just another case of this country's poor choice... I wouldn't be too bad off with the Bunnings fittings just cos we have so few fittings to change in our little house so that's probably the best option for myself.

@networkn cheers for the offer but a bit out of range for that haha.

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