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  #3482332 19-Apr-2026 23:37
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Sorry - but I'm not chasing you down all these extra rabbit holes.
That house - still running just fine after 70 years - would exceed most NZ regs (probably all of them).
We are a hell of a long way behind the rest of the world in house design.

 

I mentioned it only to prove that a properly designed & built 'wall of windows' was far from a disaster - in conditions so extreme that not a single NZ house faces anything like it. 

 

Trying to keep this vaguely on-topic... windows... I built a new house in Auckland over the Covid period.

 

I brought the windows in from Germany - via a small firm in Hamilton that specialises in NZ Passiv houses.

 

I almost had to pay extra to get them double-glazed - the Euro standard is now TG (triple glazed).
I did the calcs and the minimal difference in heat loss and gain (in Auckland's temperate climate) was not worth TG's downside of extra bulk and mass of the moving (opening) bits.
Had I been in Wanaka, I might have gone with TG.

 

I mentioned IR films in my first post - to counter solar gain - and you pooh-poohed films as not being effective against heat loss from the building.
Which was irrelevant - solar gain comes into the building as IR.    

 

Having lived with my DG windows (in this new house) for 3 years, plus 20 years in my old DG house in Auckland and 20+ years in the Canadian DG house...
Having done all the thermal calcs for the insulation, heat flow and central-heating requirements (for both NZ houses).
I can only conclude that you don't know as much about windows and thermal engineering as you believe.




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  #3482410 20-Apr-2026 11:33
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pdh:

 

Sorry - but I'm not chasing you down all these extra rabbit holes.
That house - still running just fine after 70 years - would exceed most NZ regs (probably all of them).

 

 

🙄 your comparing apples to oranges.


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  #3483067 22-Apr-2026 13:52
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One quote came in and discussed with the man who suggested I get the thermally broken for an extra $3k, however he said that they apply a film to the interior glass which retains heat in the room called it low-e-Xcel. The film concerned me a little since my experience with any film is that the slightest moisture can make it lift and excessive sun heat causes it to dry and crackle and is hell to remove. Has anyone had long term experience with low-e glass? 

 

The quote was reasonable but with the lowest grade specs with 4 mil toughened glass. Am now asking for thicker 6 ml external glass in either laminated or toughened. Unsure about toughened glass as it can randomly shatter if something hits it in the sweet spot. Still waiting for other quotes. 




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  #3483142 22-Apr-2026 18:52
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its not a film in the way you are talking about. Not like a roll of tint film (think duraseal on your school books) its a microscopically thin, transparent metallic coating applied to the surface of standard glass.

 

It's not going to lift or dry or crackle and you cant remove it.

 

 

 

Low-e glass is everywhere.


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  #3483143 22-Apr-2026 19:16
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Eva888:

 

One quote came in and discussed with the man who suggested I get the thermally broken for an extra $3k, however he said that they apply a film to the interior glass which retains heat in the room called it low-e-Xcel. The film concerned me a little since my experience with any film is that the slightest moisture can make it lift and excessive sun heat causes it to dry and crackle and is hell to remove. Has anyone had long term experience with low-e glass? 

 

 

its odd they even have non-thermally broken frames. probably old stock they are getting rid of. you also don't want it because you get condensation on the frames.

 

there is low e glass where there is a coating on the back of the two glass panes depending on if you want to keep heat out or in. there is a range of options. it doesn't come off and its protected inside the window.

 

there is also stick on films applied on the inside of the window (ie not between the panes) to help block heat and sunlight. they are the ones that end up peeling off.


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