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#1786306 22-May-2017 23:55

Hi guys,

I got pretty annoyed by Flick not giving me any notifications at all through the app.(not even the spike come through today despite 60 cents / kwH!)
Maybe it's because I seem to have a minimum price of 18 cents at all times (low user plan), who knows.

Anyway, I created a webapp last week that queries the Flick API. (Based on madleech's project on Github)
You can set your own price threshold plus I decided that anything > 40 cents is noteworthy. ;-)
You can get notifications via email, slack message and / or IFTTT triggers.

flick.business-process.net

It also has some nice gimmicks like exporting all the data of the price updates or a little price chart over the last day or so, etc.
That one caught the spike this morning well (see one of the screenshots below) - easier than trying the flick website that was mostly down...

Happy to give some people access to test it.
Other REST / SOAP interfaces should be easy to implement too (Home Assistant? Smartthings?).

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#1786314 23-May-2017 01:40

@Himmig Try switching on the carbon emissions notifications in the Flick App and check that the come through. As a means of checking if it is an App problem or an account related problem.

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#1786320 23-May-2017 06:51

Himmig:

Hi guys,

I got pretty annoyed by Flick not giving me any notifications at all through the app.(not even the spike come through today despite 60 cents / kwH!)
Maybe it's because I seem to have a minimum price of 18 cents at all times (low user plan), who knows.

Anyway, I created a webapp last week that queries the Flick API. (Based on madleech's project on Github)
You can set your own price threshold plus I decided that anything > 40 cents is noteworthy. ;-)
You can get notifications via email, slack message and / or IFTTT triggers.

flick.business-process.net

It also has some nice gimmicks like exporting all the data of the price updates or a little price chart over the last day or so, etc.
That one caught the spike this morning well (see one of the screenshots below) - easier than trying the flick website that was mostly down...

Happy to give some people access to test it.
Other REST / SOAP interfaces should be easy to implement too (Home Assistant? Smartthings?).

Nodewatch does something similar. It works off the national rate, not the Flick estimate. Though come to think of it, I didn't get any alerts yesterday. I'll email the nodewatch guy.

Himmig

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#1786321 23-May-2017 06:51

Emission notifications work fine.
I like being able to set my own threshold though - the web app is great for that. I just wish Flick had a public API.

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#1786323 23-May-2017 07:00

Yea I used nodewatch for some time and it's pretty good. :) would be good if it had Slack, IFTTT or other means of integration as well.
At the moment using the flick API works great but I saw some people here mentioning that their price can be very unreliable.

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#1786333 23-May-2017 07:46

timmmay:

Nodewatch does something similar. It works off the national rate, not the Flick estimate. Though come to think of it, I didn't get any alerts yesterday. I'll email the nodewatch guy.

I didn't get Nodewatch emails yesterday either. And my Flick notifications don't work at all. So updates to this forum thread is how I know when there's a spike.

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#1786349 23-May-2017 07:52

Nodewatch uses the 5 minute average price and relies on the EA's EMI API to work.

Rather than developing webapps, ya'll are better signing up at http://www2.electricityinfo.co.nz and getting access to the actual forecast prices and 5 minute prices produced by the market system.

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#1786353 23-May-2017 08:05

@voy1d
I had a look at the website but didn't really find a way to tap into an API - do they have one?
I use Flick's data because it also has their own price component, cost for the line, low user base price etc. It's just easier and more relevant for my personal use I guess - unless there is a better way of getting this information and hooking it into IFTTT?

Happy to share the app file if anyone wants to run it on their local server. You can test it on flick.business-process.net

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#1786361 23-May-2017 08:26

voy1d:

Nodewatch uses the 5 minute average price and relies on the EA's EMI API to work.

Rather than developing webapps, ya'll are better signing up at http://www2.electricityinfo.co.nz and getting access to the actual forecast prices and 5 minute prices produced by the market system.

There's no alerting there, AFAIK.

Flick did send alerts yesterday, eventually. You have to have the app on your phone, be logged into Flick (it seems to log you out occasionally), and be online.

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#1786362 23-May-2017 08:36

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#1786366 23-May-2017 08:45

Try https://www1.electricityinfo.co.nz/

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#1786368 23-May-2017 08:47

Yes?

You can sign in and get alerts on both of those pages, so they do produce alerts (well I'm assuming they do since they say you can)

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#1786479 23-May-2017 10:05

Nodewatch is broken because the page they scraped disappeared, but the developer has been meaning to fix it.

Is there a suitable API he could call? Scraping is a big ugly, fragile, etc.

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#1786586 23-May-2017 11:41

voy1d:

Have just checked this out - I do use the WITS site a lot to keep an eye on price movements. It seems that I had previously set up an alert for when the price at my node goes over $100 (don't actually remember doing it though). Well, there's a page of price alerts, under a heading of "notifications" - and it's now listing dozens for the last couple of days. So not really an "alert" if you have to go to the page to see them!

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#1786919 23-May-2017 17:08

timmmay:

Nodewatch is broken because the page they scraped disappeared, but the developer has been meaning to fix it.

Is there a suitable API he could call? Scraping is a big ugly, fragile, etc.

There is an EMI API that he can use.

https://emi.portal.azure-api.net/docs/services

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