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#116000 15-Apr-2013 10:35
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Thinking of putting a network swtich in the wardrobe in the corridor or a full height cupboard ..

There is a light swtich next to it, rather not knock a hole.  The previous owner has a electrical cable maybe from the attic to downstairs where they added a master bedroom.  Is it possible to tag off that?  I'll go look around at the hardware stores if there is a box unit that can be attached to the wall where there is one input from the attic and two outputs one for downstairs thru a wire and the 2nd - plug in outlet.  Looking at DIY'ing. 


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  #799478 15-Apr-2013 10:52
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From what you describe legally you can do it as DIY , but you will need to get any alteration certified, 

I would tee up a sparky that will agree to certify the work before getting stuck into it....

http://www.consumerbuild.org.nz/publish/diy/diylegal-electrical.php



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  #799515 15-Apr-2013 11:18
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Thanks for that. 

One time we got the extractor fan added in the bathroom thru a contractor connected to the light switch.  We didn't get a Certificate of Compliance, does that mean that has not been certified?

 
 
 
 


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  #799526 15-Apr-2013 11:28
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rayonline: Thanks for that. 

One time we got the extractor fan added in the bathroom thru a contractor connected to the light switch.  We didn't get a Certificate of Compliance, does that mean that has not been certified?


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  #799816 15-Apr-2013 19:39
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If not certified then your insurance might not pay out.

I'm under the impression (from reading the wiring standard long ago) that you are not allowed to make star connections (or T-off), wiring must go from one point to the next (and without joints).

You might be better off running a decent gauge garden lighting low voltage wire from the wardrobe to a power point where you can fit the power adapter. Or get a switch that takes POE. Or you can maybe get a POE injector/extractor, but might not be able to deliver enough current.




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  #799841 15-Apr-2013 20:39
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rayonline: Thinking of putting a network swtich in the wardrobe in the corridor or a full height cupboard ..

There is a light swtich next to it, rather not knock a hole.  The previous owner has a electrical cable maybe from the attic to downstairs where they added a master bedroom.  Is it possible to tag off that?  I'll go look around at the hardware stores if there is a box unit that can be attached to the wall where there is one input from the attic and two outputs one for downstairs thru a wire and the 2nd - plug in outlet.  Looking at DIY'ing. 


Cheers. 


Your existing arrangement sounds a bit 'messy' (sorry, can not think of a nice way to put it...) to be honest.

I can not work out if you are thinking about using the lighting cable to supply power to your new socket? This is not allowed.

Also, if you are adding a new socket, the work will need to be inspected by a registered electrrician (or electrical inspector).

My advice, for this situation, call 2-3 sparkies, explain the job, ask them to have a look and quote for the work. They may also advise on the legality (and safety) of the existing installtion.




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  #799845 15-Apr-2013 20:43
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2-3 quotes for something simple like this sounds excessive. Quotes cost a business money, for simple things like this I expect an estimate from a few guys (based on the same information) and a quote from the one you like the best sounds more reasonable.

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  #799856 15-Apr-2013 20:51
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Evilg:
rayonline: Thanks for that. 

One time we got the extractor fan added in the bathroom thru a contractor connected to the light switch.  We didn't get a Certificate of Compliance, does that mean that has not been certified?


Correct


dumb question - had two heatpumps installed - obviously he has to draw power from the mainboard - if installed by certified fujitsu installer - is it automatically certified without a certificate needed (i have receipts of intallation)




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  #799857 15-Apr-2013 20:52
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I had a look at the PoE equipment, that costs more than offsets the installation.  I could just put the network switch above the laundry room cabinet and use some cable clips to the wall and plug the power into the wall socket ....

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  #799864 15-Apr-2013 20:59
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joker97:
Evilg:
rayonline: Thanks for that. 

One time we got the extractor fan added in the bathroom thru a contractor connected to the light switch.  We didn't get a Certificate of Compliance, does that mean that has not been certified?


Correct


dumb question - had two heatpumps installed - obviously he has to draw power from the mainboard - if installed by certified fujitsu installer - is it automatically certified without a certificate needed (i have receipts of intallation)


WRONG, any new electrical work requires an electrical COC, there are very few exceptions for this but heat pump install in a house does not qualify for an exception.

Go back to your heat pump installer and ask for your COC, they are legally required to provide it.

As far as this socket in your closet, go and talk to your electrician, doing your own electrical work may seem easy enough, but if you get it wrong then there is the potential for for serious injury or even death!

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joker97:
Evilg:
rayonline: Thanks for that. 

One time we got the extractor fan added in the bathroom thru a contractor connected to the light switch.  We didn't get a Certificate of Compliance, does that mean that has not been certified?


Correct


dumb question - had two heatpumps installed - obviously he has to draw power from the mainboard - if installed by certified fujitsu installer - is it automatically certified without a certificate needed (i have receipts of intallation)


They should have given you a Electrical Certificate of Compliance after they did the work. If you didn't get one then the work they did was illegal and you should call the company back up who installed it and ask for them to send a electrician for free to look over the work fine and certify the work which was done (It it is safe and done correctly)





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  #799869 15-Apr-2013 21:04
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gosh let's dig up the paperwork ....




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  #800005 16-Apr-2013 08:48
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Come to think of it, I didn't get any COC from the sparkie with my new kitchen job. Mmmmmm.

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  #800051 16-Apr-2013 10:07
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hmm ...




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  #800324 16-Apr-2013 16:38
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rayonline: I had a look at the PoE equipment, that costs more than offsets the installation.  I could just put the network switch above the laundry room cabinet and use some cable clips to the wall and plug the power into the wall socket ....


POE is very simple, just a common mode voltage on an otherwise floating cable.  Buying equipment retail to inject POE is silly, either eBay or you can make it yourself.  Or find another location as you say.




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...

I'm under the impression (from reading the wiring standard long ago) that you are not allowed to make star connections (or T-off), wiring must go from one point to the next (and without joints).



Not true on both accounts

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