CABOTS or WATTLY for deck stain.

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jimbob79

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#226291 30-Dec-2017 10:06

I have both Kwila and Pine decks both needing a new coat of deck stain.

Over the years I've used both Oil and Water-based, and neither has lasted as long as it should of. Both were applied with a Lamb Wool Pad.

mdf

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#1927023 30-Dec-2017 15:18

I've used cabots on a vitex deck previously. Seemed to work well, but did require a clean (deck cleaner and stiff broom) and reapplication every 2-3 years. Deck got plenty of sun.

+1 for the lambswool applicator and bucket though. I did it with a brush a couple of times and it took forever in comparison.

lxsw20

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#1927028 30-Dec-2017 15:41

They never last with the UV in NZ. When i sold stain many years ago, they use to recommend doing a single new coat every year to keep up the UV protection....who has time for that!!.

JayADee

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#1927370 31-Dec-2017 15:54

I have used Cabots and Forresters. Don't think kind matters much but darker probably protects better.
Edit: I'm not sure staining them is worth it. It's also expensive. Anybody who has had a pine deck longer than 15 years have an opinion?

mattwnz

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#1927371 31-Dec-2017 15:55

How do resene ones compare?

JayADee

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#1927373 31-Dec-2017 15:59

mattwnz:
How do resene ones compare?

I got the Forester oil based from Resene but it is sold through Mitre 10 too.

Plus one for lambs wool applicator. Heck of a lot faster and easier.

E3xtc

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#1931933 8-Jan-2018 08:25

FWIW - We use Intergrain Ultradeck. Its a nice easy process and seems to last reasonably well...on our Pine deck - 2 coats, 5 years and I have just done a clean/recoat (although it should have been done about a year back I would say, as it got pretty average/patchy)...Our deck gets hit by a fair amount of sun and hammering from our little (now) 4 year old :O

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#1932218 8-Jan-2018 13:11

jimbob79:
I have both Kwila and Pine decks both needing a new coat of deck stain.

Over the years I've used both Oil and Water-based, and neither has lasted as long as it should of. Both were applied with a Lamb Wool Pad.

I would avoid Cabots Aquadeck, it's horrible stuff, see e.g. some of the bad experiences people have had here. The main complaints are that it stays tacky forever, and that it doesn't last long. I ignored the Cabots instructions and applied it with a brush (i.e. at much lower levels than with the lambs wool applicator) and left a full week between coats to dry, and even then there were still areas where it was somewhat tacky. And after all that I ran into the other problem that people have complained about, that their "natural" stain is more like watered-down orange paint. I now have a brownish-orange deck, and from other reports people have made it just gets more and more orange on each recoat.

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E3xtc

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#1932584 9-Jan-2018 09:59

that "orange" thing is something that caught my wife and I out initially...the "natural" we were hoping, would have been clearish rather than orangey brown....this appears consistent across the brands though....but might be more or less intense with different brands *shrug