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Topic # 236186 22-May-2018 18:01
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Came across this

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/05/21/crackdown-wood-burning-stoves-ministers-say-air-pollution-uks/

"A crackdown on wood burning stoves is at the centre of a Government drive to reduce air pollution as ministers deem it the UK’s biggest environmental threat to human health.

Under a new clean air strategy to be announced on Tuesday, wood burners that pump out too much smoke will be banned from sale, along with certain types of car tyres and brakes, cleaning solvents, fertilisers and solid fuels."

It would be interesting to watch the present coalition in NZ tie itself in knots over the same subject! Certainly we notice the pollution a lot in Wairarapa towns over winter.





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  Reply # 2020543 22-May-2018 18:19
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This is a pollution issue, why make it into a political issue? As you know, we have strict clean air burners.  


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  Reply # 2020547 22-May-2018 18:22
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spot on @tdgeek






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  Reply # 2020554 22-May-2018 18:28
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>wood burners that pump out too much smoke will be banned from sale,

 

installed a woodburner in Christchurch , Timaru or Nelson recently ??....

 

This is here already, and has resulted in HUGE efforts by local manufacturers to build high efficiency low emission burners over the past few years, all driven by these restrictions..


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  Reply # 2020560 22-May-2018 18:38
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Good to see the UK catching up with NZ 20 years ago.




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  Reply # 2020564 22-May-2018 18:41
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wellygary: installed a woodburner in Christchurch , Timaru or Nelson recently ??....

 

There's a bylaw in Rotorua too. I don't know how it compares with those, but it's probably similar.


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  Reply # 2020577 22-May-2018 18:58
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Behodar:

 

wellygary: installed a woodburner in Christchurch , Timaru or Nelson recently ??....

 

There's a bylaw in Rotorua too. I don't know how it compares with those, but it's probably similar.

 

 

Down here in ChCh, you need cleanair burners. No open yard fees, not for years actually, and I think that some or many open fires such as pizza oven are banned unless its rural. 

 

When I was a kid, (born ChCh lived in AKL, back here as a kid)  pollution was rife. Thick and brown. Not been like that forever. 

 

Off course UK is more densely populated so its more important. But I am unsure how prevalent wood fires are there 


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  Reply # 2020612 22-May-2018 19:11
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we installed a wood burner sub 4 years ago, having access to wood was the main driver.  If seasoned properly, they are still a great way to heat and in an outage for power, cook/boil water and keep warm.

 

Its as much the user as the regulatory body that should be responsible for using them properly.

 

Edit: spelling with a travel keyboard is punishing.......




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  Reply # 2020693 22-May-2018 20:26
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tdgeek:

This is a pollution issue, why make it into a political issue? As you know, we have strict clean air burners.  



Sure. There are no Smokey old burners making the locality smell of wood and asthmatics wheeze....






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  Reply # 2020697 22-May-2018 20:30
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the air is terrible in winter, due to people burning wood, coal and all sorts of rubbish. 

 

used to know a family that chuck all their rubbish into the burner!


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  Reply # 2020711 22-May-2018 20:42
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that's more people being ar#$%oles than the burner being the issues though.

 

With properly seasoned wood and an eco fireplace (although moving away from OP) they can be extremely efficient.

 

 


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  Reply # 2020735 22-May-2018 21:09
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Behodar:

 

wellygary: installed a woodburner in Christchurch , Timaru or Nelson recently ??....

 

There's a bylaw in Rotorua too. I don't know how it compares with those, but it's probably similar.

 

 

Open fires are completely banned and only approved woodburners are allowed to be installed in new houses , there is a list to what is allowed. Anything over 10 years are not allowed and if you have one then you are not allowed to sell your house until it is replaced or removed. We replaced our woodburner with a heatpump under the hot swap clean air program and we got an interest free loan over 10 years added to our rates, i dont even notice it now.

 

https://cleanairrotorua.co.nz/hot-swap/   





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  Reply # 2020736 22-May-2018 21:09
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Would love some laws like that in Wellington - our neighbour put in an open fire when they renovated a couple of years ago and they like to burn coal. It's the most revolting smell cry (luckily it's more for atmosphere (!) rather than their main source of heating)





 

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  Reply # 2020786 22-May-2018 22:24
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stopping crappy burners probably improves air quality more than banning motorcars


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  Reply # 2020800 22-May-2018 22:44
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Batman:

 

stopping crappy burners probably improves air quality more than banning motorcars

 

 

My last house had a woodturner. Look at the chimney, all you an see is heat ripples. 

 

If you banned cars, it would smell like the country, rather than the city. 




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  Reply # 2020829 23-May-2018 03:01
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Given that there is no standard for wood quality etc it seems unlikely to matter how good the actual burner is.





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