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Topic # 239311 11-Jul-2018 19:47
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Just had a new motor put in today for my garage door as the old one had failed 

 

$821 for a new premium motor!

 

Anyone else found this?

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2054544 11-Jul-2018 19:56
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Warranties on the good ones run for 7 years.

 

So thats about $100/yr (or 33c per day) for the convenience of not getting out of your car to open it (a first world problem).  Sounds pretty good value to me.




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  Reply # 2054562 11-Jul-2018 20:20
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ockel:

 

Warranties on the good ones run for 7 years.

 

So thats about $100/yr (or 33c per day) for the convenience of not getting out of your car to open it (a first world problem).  Sounds pretty good value to me.

 

 

Thank you for the reply. The one fitted does indeed have a 7 year warranty. I just looked and Mitre10/Bunnings have Chamberlain door openers with 5 year warranty for $384/$540, the later appears to have a similar spec to my premium name brand one....

 

That said my cost included free installation est. value $145+GST

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2054568 11-Jul-2018 20:31
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How big and heavy is your door?

 

:-) 

 

 


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  Reply # 2054572 11-Jul-2018 20:35
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I noticed the same .. one of mine had a power supply issue (opened the back and it fell out .. so even my skills could Id that fault), I got scared off by replacement prices but found the same model on Trademe .. got 3 of them for $35, transplanted over what I needed and recycled the remaining bits, pays to have a look look and see if it is a DIY problem :-)




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  Reply # 2054573 11-Jul-2018 20:36
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Goosey:

 

How big and heavy is your door?

 

:-) 

 

 

4.8 x 2.1 Steel Sectional or 10m2 the unit we have installed is rated for 18m2...

 

Mark:

 

I noticed the same .. one of mine had a power supply issue (opened the back and it fell out .. so even my skills could Id that fault), I got scared off by replacement prices but found the same model on Trademe .. got 3 of them for $35, transplanted over what I needed and recycled the remaining bits, pays to have a look look and see if it is a DIY problem :-)

 

 

Well initially the door required to be re balanced as it had come off its rails, after resolving that the technician (of 7 years experience) found it would not close and this was a known fault (this would sometimes occur with us intermittently too) with a no longer available model, my wife says he tried everything to 'reset' including dismantling but in the end the engine required replacing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2054626 11-Jul-2018 21:58
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That sounds very pricey. Was it one of the quiet belt driven ones? I think the one for our new door is around $500 for a belt one, but that maybe be because they are also installing a door with it.

 

 

 

Edit: if your was a double door, maybe they need more grunty motors.

 

 

 

PS. The one we have currently got has lasted over 20 years and still going.




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  Reply # 2054725 12-Jul-2018 08:45
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mattwnz:

That sounds very pricey. Was it one of the quiet belt driven ones? I think the one for our new door is around $500 for a belt one, but that maybe be because they are also installing a door with it.


 


Edit: if your was a double door, maybe they need more grunty motors.


 


PS. The one we have currently got has lasted over 20 years and still going.



Yes the new one is belt driven and very quiet compared to the failed 13 year old chain one. I think it even has a wifi option

I've asked why they didn't offer the less expensive model

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  Reply # 2054751 12-Jul-2018 09:11
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They wont be on a production line of massive numbers, that's a cost in itself


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  Reply # 2054755 12-Jul-2018 09:15
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I've asked why they didn't offer the less expensive model

 

Possibly because they're not that much less expensive, and even if theoretically capable of handling the load if the door is otherwise set up and running correctly, the larger model is less likely to fail over the warranty period.  Explaining that to people as to why spend an extra $100 or whatever is probably more hassle than just removing the option of the less powerful unit from the equation from the start.  Warranty could probably be void in any case - if for example the springs on a sectional door hadn't been checked and adjusted as required routine maintenance which almost nobody does anyway, but the reduced chance of that happening with the larger motor means fewer warranty callbacks - which are a hassle and cost (and bad publicity) even if the warranty itself is voided.

 

AFAIK there's nothing "wrong" with the models from M10 if you want to save a few $ and install them yourself, but if they fail within the warranty (or reasonable CGA) period due to incorrect installation and/or maintenance (which is probably more likely than product defect - if you don't know what you're doing - which is most people) then it's your problem - not Mitre 10s.


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  Reply # 2055411 12-Jul-2018 22:46
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xlinknz:

ockel:


Warranties on the good ones run for 7 years.


So thats about $100/yr (or 33c per day) for the convenience of not getting out of your car to open it (a first world problem).  Sounds pretty good value to me.



Thank you for the reply. The one fitted does indeed have a 7 year warranty. I just looked and Mitre10/Bunnings have Chamberlain door openers with 5 year warranty for $384/$540, the later appears to have a similar spec to my premium name brand one....


That said my cost included free installation est. value $145+GST


 


 


 


 



Free installation = installation included.

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  Reply # 2055415 12-Jul-2018 22:52
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xlinknz:
mattwnz:

 

That sounds very pricey. Was it one of the quiet belt driven ones? I think the one for our new door is around $500 for a belt one, but that maybe be because they are also installing a door with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: if your was a double door, maybe they need more grunty motors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS. The one we have currently got has lasted over 20 years and still going.

 



Yes the new one is belt driven and very quiet compared to the failed 13 year old chain one. I think it even has a wifi option

I've asked why they didn't offer the less expensive model

 

 

 

I was told there is only a hundred dollars difference and the belts are more reliable. Although time will tell, as I can't see a rubber belt lasting 20 years


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  Reply # 2055417 12-Jul-2018 22:59
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The garage door openers in my house are 34 years old. I replaced the remote control system a couple of years ago. Thought i would have to replace one recently as the door was thumping as it was opening and closing. Turns out it was a loose guide wheel on the door. The openers are far nosier and bulky compared to modern belt drive openers.

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  Reply # 2055425 12-Jul-2018 23:33
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But they were made to last back then. I have had a 5 year old one fail recently, whish is a smaller unit but my 20 year one is still going strong.




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  Reply # 2056102 14-Jul-2018 10:54
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Thank you all for the replies smile

 

Here is the summary:

 

A premium Merlin or Garador is $850-$950 installed these come with a 7 year warranty

 

An entry level Merlin or Garador is $750-$850 installed these come with a 5 year warranty

 

A Chamberlain from Mitre10/Bunnings $284/$389/$540 (the $540 unit is essentially same spec as the Premium Garador or Merlin except 5 year warranty)

 

Note Merlin is a Chamberlain company.

 

So add at least $150 (per hour) for the install of the higher end Chamberlain and its $700

 

All in all garage door openers are not inexpensive items!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2056128 14-Jul-2018 12:05
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Our Guardian blew up for the second time (both times were thunderstorms) and have just replaced it with the $384 Chamberlain.

 

Installation was pretty straightforward except I wasn't allowed to install it unless I had an ex builder mate come and supervise me. It took us a couple of hours but we were in no hurry. I am impressed. Very quiet. All connected to Home assistant via Opengarage.io but the old was as well.

 

The instruction videos were a bit useless and lacked detailed information but were quite entertaining. The instructions were fine except you need to ensure you have a decent attachment point on your ceiling which may not be in the same place as the old one.

 

Cheers, Matt.





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