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#240662 19-Sep-2018 12:36

So we are on the hunt for some replacement downlights as some of our fittings have broken:

Our wishlist looks like this:

900lm minimum

Available in Cold White and Warm White

Dimmable for at least 6 units, 8 we don't require dimming

Ideally 120 degree beam angle

CRI > 90

IC but ideally ICF.

Seems like I can find about 3-4 of these specs but not really all of them.

Our cut out is 90mm

Anyone have better google fu than me.

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#2093133 19-Sep-2018 13:37

Can you handle a CRI > 80?

http://www.ambiuslighting.co.nz/media/107978/ADLED12W110D.pdf

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#2093139 19-Sep-2018 13:47

Yeah, I can find plenty at >80

https://light.co.nz/products/ledfocus-12w-led-downlight-white-ip44-dimmable

Looks damn near perfect, and is nicely priced too, but again, CRI 80+, ideally esp in our bedroom, CRI 90+ is ideal.

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#2093155 19-Sep-2018 14:13

Most LEDs are only >80 CRI. Have hardly seen any that are more than this, and I suspect those are very expensive. You could ask an electrican as they will be able to tell you the brands that they have the best luck with. I am using Halcyon on a new house but their CRI listed isn't >90. Generally the larger the cutout, the more lumins the light is, so you could always extend your cutout.

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#2093161 19-Sep-2018 14:16

I am not worried so much about Lumens. The 900+ ones will be PLENTY I suspect. Quality of light is probably more important.

Switch-lighting have some high CRI ones, but they don't meet some of the other specs and like you said, are pretty expensive.

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#2093165 19-Sep-2018 14:25

OK a local friend of mine designs these LED down-lights and gets them manufactured in China.

Looks like the Platinum series can be ordered in CRI >90. He doesn't mention a beam angle though.

Probably worth giving him a call as his website and documents are a little underwhelming.

http://lumnz.co.nz/platinum-series/

http://lumnz.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/LUMNZ-Brochure-OCT-2017.pdf

He also sells these through Drury Active Electrical Supplies.

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#2094420 21-Sep-2018 12:01

@suckerpunch thanks I gave him a call and got a quote.

I am wondering if we should pay what looks to be, around $20-30 a fitting more, for a CRI of 90+ as opposed to less for the 80+ (which seem to sit around 83).

We are putting 15 LED's in initially, 4 in the lounge, 2 in the Kitchen, 3 in the master bedroom including the walk in wardrobe, and 2 in my office, 1 in my wifes office, and 1 in each bedroom for the kids.

I am leering of using different CRI's in different areas because the fittings are reasonably different in terms of appearance.

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#2094732 21-Sep-2018 19:15

Check out brightgreen.com. They have some really nice quality fittings but are pricey. Available from ECC lighting. Also seen them on trade me, do a search.

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#2095548 24-Sep-2018 14:38

Bright green do nice lights.

We've also recently been specifying the range from Visionary Lights www.visionarytechnologies.co.nz NZ made, 97+ cri, tilt, dimmable, IC rated, IP65, 800lm at 4000k for a 9W tiltable downlight. All for about $34 +GST from memory.

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#2095549 24-Sep-2018 14:39

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Bright green do nice lights.

We've also recently been specifying the range from Visionary Lights www.visionarytechnologies.co.nz NZ made, 97+ cri, tilt, dimmable, IC rated, IP65, 800lm at 4000k for a 9W tiltable downlight. All for about $34 +GST from memory.

That sounds very impressive at that spec for that money! Any ideas of the cut out size?

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#2095574 24-Sep-2018 14:53

The Tilt model I have in front of me says it's got a 103mm trim diameter with a 83-95 cutout diameter.

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#2095617 24-Sep-2018 16:18

Disrespective:

The Tilt model I have in front of me says it's got a 103mm trim diameter with a 83-95 cutout diameter.

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Are you a sparky? Seems like they are a distributor, and I assume I can't buy from them directly.

Also, their website doesn't make mention of lights that size unless I am going blind?

They look excellent and if I can get them for that price somehow I'd probably seriously consider it.

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#2100906 3-Oct-2018 17:55

So I thought I'd update as to what we decided. Thanks to a fellow GZ I was able to get the Visionaries Technologies LED's for a great price, and we opted to try a variety of their lights for a bit of an experiment.

Their entry level, which isn't really entry level per se, but is their "low end" unit, is the Apollo 2. 900lm dimmable 82 cri and 7 year warranty. IC-F and 50K Life. We are going to put these in our lounge and my wifes office.

They have an Eve G4, which has a 10 Year Warranty, 1000lm and have an interesting thing, which I think would mostly be marketing but I like good marketing, where for a few dollars you can add either a blue light reduction feature, called "sleep" or studio, which raises the CRI to >97. We opted for sleep for 4 of our 5 master bedroom fittings, and 1 studio for our Walk in Wardrobe area. The sleep probably won't do much for us, as I often watch tv and play on my phone when in bed, and they both have blue light, however, I was interested to see them for just a few dollars. We are going warm white everywhere.

Ultimately, I could have saved some money by going to cheaper chinese fittings, it probably wouldn't have made much difference overall, but I like what a few of the NZ companies are trying to do to compete and felt the slightly nicer looking fittings and longer warranties were worth the extra.

I suspect overall, we may end up with Apollos everywhere else and may move the sleep fittings to our kids rooms.