What to do first? Floor or kitchen?

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#257263 23-Sep-2019 07:22

Our house needs new floor coverings (throughout) and a new kitchen.

What should be done first? (Kitchen currently has lino, but looking to replace with wood laminate )

Any recommendations for flooring/carpet and kitchen installers, and any hints & tips also gratefully received.

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#2323127 23-Sep-2019 08:07

Do the kitchen first...we are in the midst of being quoted etc for flooring and the kickboards and skirtings (apparently) all need to come off to have hard flooring put down, so you may as well do it in the right order - kitchen, flooring, insert kickboards/skirting boards.

We are getting Rhino carpet from Carpet Court and they have been very good in the pre-sales phase so far...plus they have a massive sale on.

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#2323135 23-Sep-2019 08:31

We're having the same thing done - new kitchen and whole house carpet with wooden flooring in the kitchen, bathrooms and laundry. They told us they have a tool which can cut under the skirting boards so they don't need to be replaced.

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#2323141 23-Sep-2019 08:38

Chrisclarke:

We're having the same thing done - new kitchen and whole house carpet with wooden flooring in the kitchen, bathrooms and laundry. They told us they have a tool which can cut under the skirting boards so they don't need to be replaced.

Hmm...I may have to ask our people about this tool...could save us a lot of time/effort/money.

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#2323143 23-Sep-2019 08:40

I was pleasantly surprised expected to have to pull them all off and get the painter back in.

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#2323177 23-Sep-2019 09:16

Currently doing complete reno also, flooring guys lifting tiles in kitchen to replace with laminate, no issues with cutting skirting and laying under.

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#2323184 23-Sep-2019 09:26

Thanks all. Looks like we can happily proceed with the new kitchen and the floor can wait a bit.

Also still keen to hear about suppliers etc. Do people buy appliance packages from the kitchen fitter or do you buy them separately?

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#2323208 23-Sep-2019 10:20

Shop around just done kitchen in our case was cheaper to buy seperate than in a package, also found hard to get everything you wanted in a package especially with rangehoods

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#2323343 23-Sep-2019 12:55

As above - kitchen fitter didn't have access to some appliances (Bosch). I got quotes from Harvey Norman, KitchenThings etc. Even with some of them offering a discount for a large order it still worked out cheaper to buy each item separately from whoever had a special on at the time.

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#2323363 23-Sep-2019 13:25

And .. I'm also doing those things now (and a ton more).

I had originally thought it was simpler to put flooring in first then kitchen cabinets on top, but now I know it's not significant.

If you hadn't noticed this already - you can find lots of pictures of current kitchens and materials up on ( insert favourite property trading site ).

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#2323655 24-Sep-2019 07:42

Next (possibly naive and ignorant) question if I may please.

Should I choose appliances first, then make sure the joinery gets designed and built to fit around it, or get the joinery bits done first and then select appliance that will fit (assuming there are some standard metrics for e.g the width of a dishwasher).

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#2323686 24-Sep-2019 08:41

Certainly what we did was bought all our appliances first and then designed the kitchen around them. While most conform to standard sizing (30, 45, 60, 90cm, etc) there are variations when it comes to things like ventilation and even where the power/plumbing connections are. Microwave trim kits seem to be the most variable.

Ours is a small kitchen by modern standards, so took careful planning to make sure everything fitted. Making sure doors, drawers, etc don’t conflict when opened.

Being pedantic about this sort of stuff, I built a 3D model of the kitchen to prove everything would fit/work. I’m glad I did because one of the kitchen consultants told us we couldn’t have an oven tower arrangement until I showed her the model.

Because our house is slightly older there is some variation in the floor so cabinetry was done first, including the stone bench top (the weight will effect a wooden floor), then the flooring (up to the edge of the adjustment feet), and then the kick boards.

Doing the flooring last means less chance it will be damaged by the installation of the kitchen.

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#2391011 13-Jan-2020 13:57

Thought I'd give an update.

Just about all done now.

We initially went to see what Mitre10, Bunning and Placemakers offered. We rejected all three for various reasons

Mitre 10 - we couldn't get an oven tower with eye level microwave as part of their offering
Bunnings - Kaboodle brand, appears a bit cheap and flimsy
Placemakers - too expensive

We then lined up 3 lots of specialist kitchen outfitters to come and visit but were so impressed with the first one that we cancelled the other two.

After getting their quote we signed up with Dream Doors for a bespoke build in late October with the promise that it would be in before Christmas.

Then went appliance shopping, Smeg for oven, cooktop, rangehood and dishwasher, Samsung fridge-freezer. Supplied all specs of these to Dream Doors and they then came and did the full measure.

Most of the kitchen was installed during the week of 9 December, they left off the kickboards and fridge-surround for now.

Meanwhile went floorshopping, went with Rhino Evercore from Carper Court, ordered 23 November, was installed Wed/Thu last week. Last Friday kitchen fitters came back to finish up. Just the splashback to be measured up, manufactured and fitted.

We still need to get some plastering and painting done, but yet to organise.

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#2391016 13-Jan-2020 14:12

Congrats it’s slow process but worth it, I would finish plastering and as much painting as possible before splash back. Ladders in kitchens can easily knock your splash back accidents can happen.Splash back colours are tough to chose of using glass, resene is good to look at for metallic colours I cut some gib same size as between oven and cupboards/ range hood and painted up about 9 samples left it up for a week to get an idea of colours in different lights. Tiles look pretty good as well seem to be on trend at the moment . Good luck with your splash back options

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#2391022 13-Jan-2020 14:29

Handsomedan:

Chrisclarke:

We're having the same thing done - new kitchen and whole house carpet with wooden flooring in the kitchen, bathrooms and laundry. They told us they have a tool which can cut under the skirting boards so they don't need to be replaced.

Hmm...I may have to ask our people about this tool...could save us a lot of time/effort/money.

Quite likely they’re referring to a toe-kick saw. I thought I remembered seeing something here on GZ about this - and here it is:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=141&topicid=214805

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#2391080 13-Jan-2020 14:48

eracode:

...

Quite likely they’re referring to a toe-kick saw. I thought I remembered seeing something here on GZ about this - and here it is:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=141&topicid=214805

Danger Will Robinson.

😲Ouch......should be called a toe-off saw😲

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